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A Truck the Russians Make for $50K

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Re: A Truck the Russians Make for $50K

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The Russians don't mess around when it comes to rough terrain vehicles.

I think you mean the Czech's, who make the Tatra trucks.

Kamaz is certainly up there with Tatra. When I was still following the Paris-Dakar rally (back when it was still taking place in Africa) I seem to remember that Kamaz trucks absolutely dominated the truck competition.

Re: A Truck the Russians Make for $50K

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It's just a single example. Google more if you didn't like it.

You can find many extremes everywhere, but claiming that extreme is a common occurrence is not very honest. Yes, I know what happens with ice roads during summer. That's why they are ice roads.

Extremes do absolutely exist everywhere, but Russian roads are still well-known to be some of the worst in the developed world. That isn't to say that it's entirely a problem rooted in lack of funding, though; as it turns out, building roads across permafrost is extremely difficult and Russia has a ton of that across its eleven time zones. And, even in areas that do periodically thaw, if there's a major river nearby (famously: as there is near the Lena Highway), you should be prepared for a really muddy hell during the summer; the Lena Highway becomes impassable when the Lena river floods annually, cutting Yakutsk off from the rest of the country.

Re: A Truck the Russians Make for $50K

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No steering wheel, but two levers instead: https://youtu.be/JLnSlJVAsvU?t=1m44s

Kind of looks like driving an M113. Driving them was fun, but I definitely don't miss anything else about them.

The M113 heyday was already over in my time but they were still around, especially in training brigades. Fun to drive? They were so, so slow compared to Bradleys and Strykers.

Re: A Truck the Russians Make for $50K

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You can find many extremes everywhere, but claiming that extreme is a common occurrence is not very honest. Yes, I know what happens with ice roads during summer. That's why they are ice roads.

Extremes do absolutely exist everywhere, but Russian roads are still well-known to be some of the worst in the developed world. That isn't to say that it's entirely a problem rooted in lack of funding, though; as it turns out, building roads across permafrost is extremely difficult and Russia has a ton of that across its eleven time zones. And, even in areas that do periodically thaw, if there's a major river nearby…

Well, nobody expects the Russian roads to be up to German and Austrian level, but then, in many other countries, including US, they are not up to that level either.

That video was from Rostov - and Rostov has actually fine roads. The Ukrainian side is in much worse conditions (and it is not due to the war; it was worse before the war in Donbass too).

Of course, going through Siberia has it's problems. Just few days ago I was reading article about Vasyugan Mire - http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/casestudy/features/f0207-sp... , marveling about it's beauty and hoping, that nobody will try to find out how to make a road through it ;).

Re: A Truck the Russians Make for $50K

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post #52

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I think you mean the Czech's, who make the Tatra trucks.

Kamaz is certainly up there with Tatra. When I was still following the Paris-Dakar rally (back when it was still taking place in Africa) I seem to remember that Kamaz trucks absolutely dominated the truck competition.

in West Siberia Kamaz trucks relegated to only in-village or where at least some kind of road is supposed to be. Anywhere else, where still possible for wheeled vehicles, the workhorse of USSR/Russian military is used - KrAZ (AWD, higher mount).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KrAZ#/media/File:Kraz255b.jpg

Re: A Truck the Russians Make for $50K

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You can find many extremes everywhere, but claiming that extreme is a common occurrence is not very honest. Yes, I know what happens with ice roads during summer. That's why they are ice roads.

Extremes do absolutely exist everywhere, but Russian roads are still well-known to be some of the worst in the developed world. That isn't to say that it's entirely a problem rooted in lack of funding, though; as it turns out, building roads across permafrost is extremely difficult and Russia has a ton of that across its eleven time zones. And, even in areas that do periodically thaw, if there's a major river nearby…

>That isn't to say that it's entirely a problem rooted in lack of funding, though; as it turns out, building roads across permafrost is extremely difficult and Russia has a ton of that across its eleven time zones.

tough "extreme conditions" afflicting Russian roads :)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/13/russian-prison-...

"Russia has detained a senior prison service official on suspicion of stealing a 30-mile (50km) stretch of public road, investigators said.

Alexander Protopopov oversaw the dismantling of a concrete highway and sold off the slabs while prison service chief in the far-northern Komi region, the Investigative Committee said in a statement.

The road, which was made up of more than 7,000 reinforced concrete slabs, was “dismantled and driven away” over more than a year, between 2014 and 2015"

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