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Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Let's see when Facebook converts. For some reason they love to serve Flash based SOLELY on user agent. So you have a chrome fork without flash? Here, watch this flash. Oh, and this gif is now flash as well. I can't quite figure out why.. but I would vote for incompetence. Can't see any business motivation for doing that.

They probably just have a whitelist of user agents that they have verified HTML5 video to work well on... If it's anything they don't recognize they serve flash.

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitch.tv, sadly.

There's Beam [0], it's quite new but I've been quite amazed by their work. They invented some sort of own protocol built on web standards [1]. Also, their streams are actually live (i.e. minimal delay), it's all HTTPS and a lot of their work is open source. [2] I hope this is going to be a thing. 0: https://beam.pro 1: http://forums.beam.pro/topic/168/where-we-re-at-with-html5-v... 2: https://github.com/watchbeam

Thanks for the link. Looks neat, but sadly doesn't seem to be working in Firefox for Linux. Don't have time to dig into why right now (missing MSE? some codec I don't have?)

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Has anyone here that is excited about HTML5 video (and Flash being dead) ever written an enterprise video player? It's a total nightmare in HTML5. You have little control over playback and insight into video events. Meeting business requirements (that Flash fulfilled) with HTML5 video ranges from hard to not possible.

This might help https://mozillalabs.com/en-US/Popcorn/

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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I know everybody here hates flash (for excellent reasons!) and is happy to see it die. But, as a user who doesn't work in tech, I really miss the ability to enforce click-to-play loading of videos. From my pseudo-outsider perspective, the switch to HTML5 has been really frustrating.

I happen to hang out around these parts so I understand the reasons for it, but if I didn't it would probably make me mad. It would feel like websites were just trying to get around my flash blocker and shove their autoplaying media in my face. Just goes to show how different things can look from the developer side of things.

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Now if they could make Firefox play those videos on Android all would be good.

Are NYT videos DRM enabled or use a codec that FF doesn't support on Android? FF should be just using the platform provided codecs and if it works in Chrome it should work in FF - but I just get a Video/Mime Type unsupported error on FF when browsing NYT.

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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Fantastic news and congrats to the NY Times team. Does anyone know, who at this point still continues to use Flash?

Pretty much every music streaming service I know of. There were a few that used HTML5, but all of them shut down (most recently rdio).

For Spotify, there's a years old request on the forums [0] their support keeps linking people to, but it doesn't seem like they're doing anything about it.

Deezer uses Flash for "security reasons" [1] and they don't plan to use HTML5.

Someone mentioned Google Play might work, but I haven't tried that yet.

0: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Integrate-HTML5-...

1: https://twitter.com/Deezer/status/539344616580194304

Re: Flash-Free Video in 2016

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I know everybody here hates flash (for excellent reasons!) and is happy to see it die. But, as a user who doesn't work in tech, I really miss the ability to enforce click-to-play loading of videos. From my pseudo-outsider perspective, the switch to HTML5 has been really frustrating. I happen to hang out around these parts so I understand the reasons for it, but if I didn't it would probably make me mad. It would feel…

What do you mean? There are extensions for blocking autoplay HTML5 media same as flash...
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