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Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by jlarocco » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 2:13 AM UTC

rogerbinns wrote: post #12

My biggest beef with Trello is lack of multiple account support. For example if you use it in your home life (as their blog greatly encourages), and also want it for work (as their business model greatly encourages) then you'll want distinct accounts. Without distinct accounts, you get a mixing of the data, permissions, where it is accessed from, notifications, email sent by them, makes board admin harder etc. While…

What? That is so backwards from my experience that I'm tempted to think it's a troll, or I'm completely missing what you're trying to say.

I have two Trello accounts and have never had a problem switching between them. I have one for work and another for personal stuff, just like you suggest, and it works fantastic. If I'm logged in to one and want to check the other I just log out, enter the credentials for the other account and it works exactly like I would expect. There's no mixing at all, they're completely distinct, which is exactly how I want it, and exactly how it should be, IMO.

Google, on the other hand, is an absolute mess. At this point I've resigned myself to the fact that my work Gmail/Google+/Google/YouTube account and my personal Gmail are inextricably linked together and there's no way I can unlink them. It's such a disaster that it was a big factor in my decision to start moving my personal accounts away from Google.

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by thedufer » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 2:21 AM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #39

sideproject wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what about trello tech stack? that's quite interesting for HNers too! http://blog.fogcreek.com/the-trello-tech-stack/ but that post is about 3 years old, so I wonder how they changed over the years....

We also have some additional info and insight on Trello's tech stack: http://stackshare.io/trello/trello

Where does that data come from? It's significantly out of date. I guess because the tech stack blog post is so old?

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by markbao » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 2:37 AM UTC

Business Class-only is a bit frustrating (if it needs to be paid, can it be on Trello Gold too?), but this is really exciting. Would love to see if people start to develop tools for productivity (like Pomodoro and that sort of thing) with it.

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by rogerbinns » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 2:43 AM UTC

lobster_johnson wrote: post #45

rogerbinns wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wording was poor, and Google certainly don't get them perfect. It does fundamentally work though - you can connect multiple users in web and mobile apps and switch between them as you see fit. Sometimes it does select the wrong account for whatever you were trying do (calendar used to do this a lot), but you can usually just switch to the correct account. My main frustration is services that don't even get close t…

I would argue that Google's account system is extremely poor. What it considers your primary account is apparently the first one you add, so if the order is wrong, you have to sign out of all of them and start over [1]. But it's not exactly like that. Recently someone added me to a new Google Apps for Work (or whatever it's called this month) account, and now this new account is, mysteriously, the default account, ev…

> I would argue that Google's account system is extremely poor.

You are comparing them against what they could have done. Yes, there are pieces of friction. However when compared against services that do nothing at all about multiple accounts, it is a considerable improvement!

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by rogerbinns » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 2:46 AM UTC

moultano wrote: post #41

rogerbinns wrote: post #12

My biggest beef with Trello is lack of multiple account support. For example if you use it in your home life (as their blog greatly encourages), and also want it for work (as their business model greatly encourages) then you'll want distinct accounts. Without distinct accounts, you get a mixing of the data, permissions, where it is accessed from, notifications, email sent by them, makes board admin harder etc. While…

Chrome profiles are the right tool for this. Just have a separate profile for work and for home. This has the added benefit of making it easy to stay logged out of time-wasting sites while at work.

Ah, you don't have one of those mobile device thingies that are all the rage then? If you install the Trello app, then you can only have one user logged in at a time.

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by rogerbinns » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 2:50 AM UTC

jlarocco wrote: post #51

rogerbinns wrote: post #12

My biggest beef with Trello is lack of multiple account support. For example if you use it in your home life (as their blog greatly encourages), and also want it for work (as their business model greatly encourages) then you'll want distinct accounts. Without distinct accounts, you get a mixing of the data, permissions, where it is accessed from, notifications, email sent by them, makes board admin harder etc. While…

What? That is so backwards from my experience that I'm tempted to think it's a troll, or I'm completely missing what you're trying to say. I have two Trello accounts and have never had a problem switching between them. I have one for work and another for personal stuff, just like you suggest, and it works fantastic. If I'm logged in to one and want to check the other I just log out, enter the credentials for the othe…

> ... it works fantastic ... just log out, enter the credentials for the other account ...

So you just have to log out and re-enter credentials each time you want to view a different account? And that is fantastic? Doing it several times a day is a pain. Also you only get notifications for the currently logged in account, so you'd need multiple browsers running just to get notifications from both.

Then if you have a mobile device, it becomes even worse as entering reasonably complex passphrases is a long tedious pain. Doing that several times a day is a non-starter.

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by thebournepopret » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 2:56 AM UTC

lobster_johnson wrote: post #45

rogerbinns wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wording was poor, and Google certainly don't get them perfect. It does fundamentally work though - you can connect multiple users in web and mobile apps and switch between them as you see fit. Sometimes it does select the wrong account for whatever you were trying do (calendar used to do this a lot), but you can usually just switch to the correct account. My main frustration is services that don't even get close t…

I would argue that Google's account system is extremely poor. What it considers your primary account is apparently the first one you add, so if the order is wrong, you have to sign out of all of them and start over [1]. But it's not exactly like that. Recently someone added me to a new Google Apps for Work (or whatever it's called this month) account, and now this new account is, mysteriously, the default account, ev…

I have many frustrations with Google's multiple accounts. I use multiple personal accounts, a personal Google Apps, a business Google Apps, and a self-hosted (university) Google Apps.

I've found the best solution is to create bookmarks for GMail and Calendar with the URL like you mentioned, except you can use your email address in place of the number (that is, in stead of/b/3/ you can do /b/user@gmail.com/).

Not perfect, but I hope this helps!

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by jay_kyburz » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 3:04 AM UTC

thedufer wrote: post #52

sergiotapia wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We also have some additional info and insight on Trello's tech stack: http://stackshare.io/trello/trello

Where does that data come from? It's significantly out of date. I guess because the tech stack blog post is so old?

Can you tell us if the core components are the same. Node, Redis, Mongo?

I've been looking at Node, Redis, PostgreSQL for my next project.

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by rogerbinns » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 3:25 AM UTC

madeofpalk wrote: post #50

moultano wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chrome profiles are the right tool for this. Just have a separate profile for work and for home. This has the added benefit of making it easy to stay logged out of time-wasting sites while at work.

Speaking of time-wasting sites, Google and Slack have managed to get an at least passable support of multiple accounts working. I understand it's difficult to do, but if you're a service that encourages it's use across work and personal life, you eventually need a way to manage people separating that. Perhaps they can have the concept of you always have a personal account, and you get /invited/ into an organisation?…

> Perhaps they can have the concept of you always have a personal account, and you get /invited/ into an organisation?

That sucks, and causes problems. Dropbox tried it. On the organisation side, they now have to remember that user redpuppy925 is actually an org member, rather than by the organisation identity. Then the user interface would have to show their personal and org content at the same time. You really don't want that happening on their home family computer, nor would the user likely appreciate their personal content always being available at work. It ends up far easier putting the wrong items in the wrong place.

As an org admin, it should be very clear who has access to org information. And when they leave it should be very easy to revoke that access. Backups and auditing should only cover org data, not personal content.

Re: Trello hits 12M users, launches Power-Ups platform

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Post by baddox » Wed, Jan 20, 2016, 3:51 AM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #15

rogerbinns wrote: post #12

My biggest beef with Trello is lack of multiple account support. For example if you use it in your home life (as their blog greatly encourages), and also want it for work (as their business model greatly encourages) then you'll want distinct accounts. Without distinct accounts, you get a mixing of the data, permissions, where it is accessed from, notifications, email sent by them, makes board admin harder etc. While…

> Google has shown for years how to get multiple accounts right. I really hope that was a joke on your part. If there is one thing that was irritating it was how google would mix up and connect various accounts at random for no particular reason.

It has worked nearly flawless for me for at least 5 years (and I don't recall beyond that). I say "nearly," because a few niche products (maybe AdMob dashboards, or Analytics, I forget which) don't work with multiple accounts.