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Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

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Re: Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

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I don't quite understand how "valuing time over money" is meaningful. Time and money have an exchange rate. If you want more time, you can generally forego additional money to get it, and vice versa.

Perhaps it should have stated that being happier correlates with valuing an additional minute of leisure time at a higher amount of money.

And that is as much as saying that people paid more for their work are happier, which seems almost tautological.

Re: Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

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I wonder where this puts founders. We sacrifice a lot of time and money (missed vacations, family time as well as salaries) in the attempt to create something we can call our own. I always debate if it worth it, but there just this excitement associated with the unknown potential of what you are doing that keeps me going...and happy. Sometimes though I do wish I could take that family vacation, or purchase my own apa…

Reality: You're going to die. Good Idea: Take a vacation. Enjoy life.

What about the afterlife? Many believe the temporary sacrifices they make while on Earth will benefit them for eternity in the afterlife.

Whatever makes you happy. :)

Re: Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

#54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you make of it?

small unrepresentative sample size. a problem many studies have issues with.

And all are students, who are going to be generally middle class and young.

Re: Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

#56

I searched for the phrase "diminishing marginal returns" but could not find it in the article which seems like a bit of an omission. This is a fundamental economic concept - the more of something you have, the less value you derive from each incremental unit. So, based on personal preferences, once you reach a certain level of income you will start to substitute away from labor (income) towards leisure/free time (non…

It isn't at all groundbreaking, but we haven't figured out how to apply the concept to society very well. Bertrand Russell's 1932 essay on the topic has been discussed here before: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6513765

What we need is an inversion of the "diminishing marginal returns" concept to permeate economic theory. Maybe some people just call that Keynesian theory?

I think the real takeaway isn't about upper middle class versus regular middle class. Rather there is quite a lot of negative value / lost opportunities by drawing the poverty line so low.

Re: Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

#57

Because valuing time more than money is a luxury afforded primarily by people with plenty of money.

Very close to my reaction. Having whichever you value is a big factor in happiness. Rich people have money and crave time. The unemployed have time and crave money. No surprise which of those is happier. The more interesting cases are people who don't have a lot of either but give up time for money (most of us) or give up money for time (ski bums, monks, bohemians of many kinds). Which we pursue is a strong statement about which we value, and - again - those who pursue time seem happier overall.

Personally, I've been much happier since I dropped to part time, giving up (some) money for (some) time. I'll be even happier when I take that next step toward full retirement.

Re: Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

#58

Study 1: "Students participated in exchange for the chance to win one of three prizes valued at $700." Study 2a: "Two hundred and sixty UBC students participated in exchange for entry into a lottery or for course credit (78% female)" Study 2b: "In Study 2b, 518 adults were recruited from a science museum in Vancouver, Canada" Study 3a: "In Study 3a, 242 UBC students participated in exchange for course credit or candy…

Whenever I see "in a study of N people..." I translate that to be "in a study of N university students..."

Re: Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

#59
Happiness is that for which a trap cannot be laid...

Time is more valuable for some--book lovers, hobbyists,daydreamers, etc... Money is more valuable for others...earning it, the implied security of holding it, etc...

It seems to me, based on experience, that the route to general happiness is to eliminate as many things as possible that past experience has led you to believe won't make you happy...

A life spent in contentment, interspersed with moments of joy (or, happiness) is likely all that humans can resonably hope for...

Re: Valuing time over money is associated with greater happiness

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post #45

I searched for the phrase "diminishing marginal returns" but could not find it in the article which seems like a bit of an omission. This is a fundamental economic concept - the more of something you have, the less value you derive from each incremental unit. So, based on personal preferences, once you reach a certain level of income you will start to substitute away from labor (income) towards leisure/free time (non…

>"diminishing marginal returns" I came to a different conclusion. The wealth of time (total man-hours or aggregated lifespans) is more evenly distributed across a population than is the wealth of money. Therefore, to the extent that happiness is influenced by comparing how well-off you are vs others, a person picked at random will be pretty damn close to the same standing as whoever is the Time-Richest Person in the…

The Money-Richest Persons in the World don't have to trade nearly as much of their time to complete maintenance tasks that few people enjoy doing.
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