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The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Re: The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Post by sciguy77 »

guelo wrote: post #39
tedmiston wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that the most helpful review is someone who did not buy one. Same with the second. And the third. > Sample provided for review. > Got this at no cost for unbiased review. > *I received a sample product from Ivation. Reviews are much more scattered if you filter by "Verified purchase only". It's interesting that this drops the number of reviews from 165 to 104 for a product which is designed for and presumably so…

I like how their super-duper religion doesn't prevent them from scamming people. EDIT: downvoters, care to explain what's wrong with this comment?

Since you asked, I'd say you're probably being downvoted because the fact that the creator is Jewish is irrelevant to the comment you replied to. OP was having a balanced discussion about the ethics of providing review products whereas your comment declares the creator a scammer without any explanation or supporting evidence.

IMO I don't think religion, even if its "super-duper" is really on topic in a discussion about the quality and ethics of Amazon reviews. I hope this doesn't come off as critical, I'm just trying to explain where your donvoters may be coming from.

Re: The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Post by guelo »

sciguy77 wrote: post #51
guelo wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like how their super-duper religion doesn't prevent them from scamming people. EDIT: downvoters, care to explain what's wrong with this comment?

Since you asked, I'd say you're probably being downvoted because the fact that the creator is Jewish is irrelevant to the comment you replied to. OP was having a balanced discussion about the ethics of providing review products whereas your comment declares the creator a scammer without any explanation or supporting evidence. IMO I don't think religion, even if its "super-duper" is really on topic in a discussion abo…

Thank you. Maybe the problem is I replied in this specific thread after reading the other threads were the religion is discussed. And also where the scamminess of Amazon reviews is discussed.

Re: The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Post by nickpsecurity »

adventured wrote: post #47
nickpsecurity wrote: post #34

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It's actually both. Religious nepotism often requires discrimination based on religion.

Jewish isn't a race. It isn't necessarily racial discrimination to just hire Jewish people (a Jewish person can be white, black, whatever). Is it discrimination based on religion? Obviously.

I was referring to the fact that they mostly hire people that are (a) Jews and (b) Jewish. Jew is a race that I'm aware of. So, it's usually racist and religious discrimination.

Re: The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Post by nickpsecurity »

ars wrote: post #42
xxpor wrote: post #25

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Just guessing, but they probably just post Yiddish only job ads in the local Jewish paper (there are plenty in North Jersey and NYC).

You know how they say most jobs from from personal leads? That's all it is. "Hey we need someone else for a customer service position - you know anyone?" "Sure, my neighbor's son is looking a job."

"We're going to need about 150 employees at this business. Know anyone personally?"

"Yeah, about 70 Orthodox Jews and this one Italian dude who probably won't adhere to their culture. Might let him work from home."

Re: The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Post by NvidiaCUDA »

ars wrote: post #43
ck2 wrote: post #17

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Let's be specific. Orthodox Jews. It's basically an society-accepted fanatical cult. I bet none of those 150 were women, they wouldn't be tolerated to work together, or pray together, etc.

> I bet none of those 150 were women, they wouldn't be tolerated to work together, or pray together, etc. You know nothing about Orthodox Jews do you?

מארק אנדרסן שונא יהודים. וכך גם האנשים באתר האינטרנט שלו.

Re: The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Post by alanh »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #16
Animats wrote: post #8

Unable to get past full screen interstitial ad.

I would tell you to just turn Ghostery off but I'll just be nice this time: http://pastebin.com/gpEeEtpE You used to read everything as terminal text back in the day, right? This one scrolls and renders better. ;)

Or, use Pocket. Whenever I get frustrated with a shit reading experience or interminable load, I just send the article to Pocket and carry on.

Re: The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Post by maratd »

nickpsecurity wrote: post #53
adventured wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jewish isn't a race. It isn't necessarily racial discrimination to just hire Jewish people (a Jewish person can be white, black, whatever). Is it discrimination based on religion? Obviously.

I was referring to the fact that they mostly hire people that are (a) Jews and (b) Jewish. Jew is a race that I'm aware of. So, it's usually racist and religious discrimination.

> Jew is a race that I'm aware of.

What? No. Ashkenazim might be genetically similar, but even there, not a race. And there are also Sephardim. Also Jews from Africa? Definitely not a race.

Re: The Amazon Whisperer (2013)

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Post by neolefty »

darkstar999 wrote: post #12

> Before us are rows of cubicles, almost entirely inhabited by bearded, yarmulke-wearing men in crisp white shirts. These are Pikarski's buyers. (About half of C&A Marketing's 150-person staff is Orthodox, though the buyers division is more homogenous. "The buyer that does all the storage products, he's the only guy I let work out of home," Pikarski says. "He's Italian.") Did that bother anyone else?

At first, no it didn't bother me that it was culturally homogeneous -- I thought "Hey this guy is running his own business, that's great." Lots of small businesses that grow organically are confined to a single culture. After all, it was founded by two Orthodox Jews, former competitors, undoubtedly part of a business-friendly community with more contacts who were open to good employment.

But now I think you bring up a fair point, and as they grow, they're probably facing pressure to diversify. Their numbers will start looking suspicious, and it will get harder to find employees within the same community, if nothing else. And how they handle it will affect their company culture and reputation for sure.

Inclusiveness can be hard work; in an ideal world, it would develop organically, with time to learn as they go. I'm sure it will go better if they work at it proactively rather than resist it. But they live in a multi-cultural city, so I'm sure they have some life experience.

I love the hint in the article about that process. It's colorful and shows that it's not just about cultures, but also about individuals:

> "The buyer that does all the storage products, he's the only guy I let work out of home," Pikarski says. "He's Italian."

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