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Re: Chinese University Tops MIT in Engineering Rankings

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

redwood wrote: post #40

Seeing everyone on here so dismissive is simply shocking to me. If you don't like these results or don't believe them look at the overall trend folks. A decade ago there wouldn't have been the Chinese University in the top 10. Now they have half the top rankings. I take my hat off to them; I respect their achievements and if you follow the trend forward they look unstoppable.and of the people at these universities th…

BA/MA in Chinese studies here. I greatly admire China's accomplishments, starting back around 1,000 BC :)

China today is on a trajectory of becoming the premier world technological power, simply based on its tremendous energy and drive and respect for learning.

The U.S. and Europe are in decline, by comparison. The U.S. in particular is relying heavily on Chinese and other foreign students to keep its science, math, and engineering graduate programs going. The native U.S. population is lazy and unmotivated by comparison.

And tellingly, increasing numbers of Chinese grads are returning to China to work rather than seeking citizenship in the U.S. Even non-Chinese are flocking to China to start up technology companies, something unheard of a generation or two back.

I too hope this doesn't turn into some kind of cold war.

Re: Chinese University Tops MIT in Engineering Rankings

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Post by olalonde »

suryon wrote: post #36
Tinyyy wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You talk a whole lot, but you've never addressed his point that "it would rock being rich in China". (I am not taking a side).

Being rich does not guarantee that you will have a good life anywhere. There are numerous other things you have to consider. Yes a rich man can buy a big land for himself and build a wall to keep the beggars outside. He can even move to the countryside and never go out or use a private jets / helicopters. The thing is that China is a home for a lot of people and is too polluted and crowded because of wealth distribut…

Compared to the US, China has a lot less of both violent crime and beggars. I'm sorry but it seems you don't know what you are talking about.

Re: Chinese University Tops MIT in Engineering Rankings

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Post by suryon »

olalonde wrote: post #52
suryon wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being rich does not guarantee that you will have a good life anywhere. There are numerous other things you have to consider. Yes a rich man can buy a big land for himself and build a wall to keep the beggars outside. He can even move to the countryside and never go out or use a private jets / helicopters. The thing is that China is a home for a lot of people and is too polluted and crowded because of wealth distribut…

Compared to the US, China has a lot less of both violent crime and beggars. I'm sorry but it seems you don't know what you are talking about.

First of all you know nothing about me and that's fine.

Second just because you live in Hong Kong or Shenzhen it does not mean you know anything about China. Especially these 2 do not reflect anything at all about China. And that is fine that might be the reason why have you chosen them and not the other places in China.

Third. You do not seem to speak the Chinese language.

Fourth. Just because you have a positive prejudice towards China does not mean you are right.

Fifth. If you would know something about authoritarian regimes and especially China or NK you would know that hiding and punishing beggars is a common practice to save face.

Sixth. Please educate me how country of 1.3bn has a lot less beggars and violent crimes than US a country of 320m.

Seventh. If you have never lived in a communist country you surely can't be aware of propaganda and hiding of crimes. Ask some chinese friends of yours how hiding crimes, especially the violent ones goes in China. How it was in every communist state. You will be surprised.

Eighth. I understand you like China/Chinese more than Americans but do not close your eyes before the crimes of these regimes I am begging you. For all of those that died and suffered in gulags

Ninth. I recommend you to visit countryside and especially the northern region if you have the balls.

Re: Chinese University Tops MIT in Engineering Rankings

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Post by vixen99 »

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #51
redwood wrote: post #40

Seeing everyone on here so dismissive is simply shocking to me. If you don't like these results or don't believe them look at the overall trend folks. A decade ago there wouldn't have been the Chinese University in the top 10. Now they have half the top rankings. I take my hat off to them; I respect their achievements and if you follow the trend forward they look unstoppable.and of the people at these universities th…

BA/MA in Chinese studies here. I greatly admire China's accomplishments, starting back around 1,000 BC :) China today is on a trajectory of becoming the premier world technological power, simply based on its tremendous energy and drive and respect for learning. The U.S. and Europe are in decline, by comparison. The U.S. in particular is relying heavily on Chinese and other foreign students to keep its science, math,…

'The U.S. and Europe are in decline, by comparison'. No argument about this. Where are the passionate national debates about why this is so and what can be done about it? Or maybe they are going on and I'm not seeing them.

Re: Chinese University Tops MIT in Engineering Rankings

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Post by olalonde »

suryon wrote: post #53
olalonde wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to the US, China has a lot less of both violent crime and beggars. I'm sorry but it seems you don't know what you are talking about.

First of all you know nothing about me and that's fine. Second just because you live in Hong Kong or Shenzhen it does not mean you know anything about China. Especially these 2 do not reflect anything at all about China. And that is fine that might be the reason why have you chosen them and not the other places in China. Third. You do not seem to speak the Chinese language. Fourth. Just because you have a positive pr…

The very basic thing is : gun is not allowed anywhere in china except military and special forces. This comes down to one thing , it is hard to start violation here. And chinese here is controlling 1.5 billion people. Do not talk about the things that you dont know shit about it. You tell me i like more of china than america but here is the truth i havent seen any gun violence in china thus i havent seen gangs or mafia here. Dont believe in the tales of triad or other stuff. They stayed in past and china is one of the safest countries in the world. I suggest you to watch less fox and cnn. In china you can freely walk around drunk around 4 or 5 am without worry.

Re: Chinese University Tops MIT in Engineering Rankings

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #51
redwood wrote: post #40

Seeing everyone on here so dismissive is simply shocking to me. If you don't like these results or don't believe them look at the overall trend folks. A decade ago there wouldn't have been the Chinese University in the top 10. Now they have half the top rankings. I take my hat off to them; I respect their achievements and if you follow the trend forward they look unstoppable.and of the people at these universities th…

BA/MA in Chinese studies here. I greatly admire China's accomplishments, starting back around 1,000 BC :) China today is on a trajectory of becoming the premier world technological power, simply based on its tremendous energy and drive and respect for learning. The U.S. and Europe are in decline, by comparison. The U.S. in particular is relying heavily on Chinese and other foreign students to keep its science, math,…

Don't you think China had some help getting to where they are today? Western governments and corporations have systematically moved all technological and manufacturing power to China for the past 60 years. How can the U.S. population possibly compete with China, when we've been completely sold out to them? Manufacturing and doing other types of business is not cheap or easy in the U.S. because of the situation that our trusted institutions have driven us into. I really don't think it has anything to do with the population being lazy or unmotivated.

My bet - I think it's going to be a hot war and I think that's been the plan all along. China was conquered long ago by the West, but they are valued by the powers that be since their people are so easily enslaved. China is going to be the new super power and the US simply won't exist anymore. Just my opinion and I hope I'm wrong.

Re: Chinese University Tops MIT in Engineering Rankings

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Post by echevil »

suryon wrote: post #12

To those that believe that US system is rotten and ineffective and think that Chinese are doing something right because they are Chinese I can tell you only one thing. NEVER TRUST A COMMUNIST REGIME. Even if you compare millionaires to millionaires the quality of life in China is far worse than in the USA. Never trust a communist propaganda. Never ever do that. The gov and chinese in general are known for trying to s…

A bogus claim like this is no better than any communist propaganda at all

Re: Chinese University Tops MIT in Engineering Rankings

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Post by echevil »

It'd be more interesting to see a ranking by only the average competitiveness of their undergraduate school students, and I bet you will see lots of Chinese and Indian university on top and American Universities are not anywhere close.

America has so many good universities but at the same time just a small talent pool.

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