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Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by jonknee » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 10:34 PM UTC

RokStdy wrote: post #50

jonknee wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your work computer's Spotify usage doesn't have anything to do with Pandora's claim about being the most used mobile app.

I'm not sure if you're serious or not. I think the connection that was being made is that, if you evaluate usage based purely on time, Pandora may have a ton of time in use. But, much (or at least some) of that time may be people who've left it to stream for hours after they've left.

Leaving your work computer on doing anything has nothing to do with the usage of a mobile app. He's not leaving his phone on playing music overnight at work.

Pandora isn't claiming to be the most used app in the world, they're claiming to be the most used mobile app in the world. People take their phones with them and for battery life alone are not likely to leave them playing music while they aren't listening to it.

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by 650REDHAIR » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 10:35 PM UTC

jonknee wrote: post #34

maccard wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also left Spotify streaming on my work computer when I left this evening. My average Spotify usage is probably 23 hours a day.

Your work computer's Spotify usage doesn't have anything to do with Pandora's claim about being the most used mobile app.

Sure it does. We leave Pandora open on our phones during the workday almost all day and at least one of them in the evening at home.

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by chillwaves » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 10:36 PM UTC

anthrophuman wrote: post #48

hopefully now this means I won't keep hearing the same songs over and over on pandora... oh wait, already cancelled my membership edit: the truth hurts. I used and paid for pandora one for many years but the fact is they play the same songs over and over regardless of what station I'm on. switched to slacker radio, then rdio more recently and found it to be much better. best of luck to pandora though.

Thanks for your contribution.

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by jonknee » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 10:36 PM UTC

mmanfrin wrote: post #19

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #5

> The Pandora app is the single most-used mobile app in the world Can this possibly be true? More used than Apple/Google/Spotify music apps maybe, but Facebook? Google search seems hard to believe too? I mean 80m users, "many on their phone" when Facebook have put up 1b users in the same day and I'm pretty sure surpassed 50%+ mobile usage?

In addition to others suggesting by total time, I'd add that they are in a lot of embedded devices: cars, tvs, even receivers.

Though I don't think that would count towards "most-used mobile app". I think they mean phones.

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by jonknee » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 10:39 PM UTC

650REDHAIR wrote: post #52

jonknee wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your work computer's Spotify usage doesn't have anything to do with Pandora's claim about being the most used mobile app.

Sure it does. We leave Pandora open on our phones during the workday almost all day and at least one of them in the evening at home.

Which makes you part of Pandora's claim that they're the most used mobile app. Leaving a desktop computer streaming music on at work has nothing to do with mobile app usage.

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by toomuchtodo » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 10:56 PM UTC

ju-st wrote: post #41

bkeroack wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You aren't the customer. The venues/teams/promoters are.

Yep. If you want to outcompete Ticketmaster you have to increase your revenue by jacking up the ticket prices even more (so your real customers get more money).

What if a startup worked with upcoming artists to book venues that aren't your typical music venues? The venue gets traffic it wouldn't have otherwise gotten, the artist keeps ticket prices lower (which promotes more exposure with their fans, and increases the profitability of touring).

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by thaumasiotes » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 11:04 PM UTC

jonknee wrote: post #55

650REDHAIR wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure it does. We leave Pandora open on our phones during the workday almost all day and at least one of them in the evening at home.

Which makes you part of Pandora's claim that they're the most used mobile app. Leaving a desktop computer streaming music on at work has nothing to do with mobile app usage.

It illustrates that music apps are likely to be in use for very long periods/proportions of time. maccard's comment was quite relevant; it's not at all unreasonable to read in "and other people might use pandora similarly to the way I use spotify".

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by thaumasiotes » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 11:05 PM UTC

timcameronryan wrote: post #7

mcintyre1994 wrote: post #5

> The Pandora app is the single most-used mobile app in the world Can this possibly be true? More used than Apple/Google/Spotify music apps maybe, but Facebook? Google search seems hard to believe too? I mean 80m users, "many on their phone" when Facebook have put up 1b users in the same day and I'm pretty sure surpassed 50%+ mobile usage?

Perhaps it's usage by time? i.e. Pandora left on in the background.

The launcher and lock screen do come to mind...

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by thaumasiotes » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 11:09 PM UTC

samstave wrote: post #47

If anyone from Pandora is reading this: * Form a partnership with Uber -- allow me to see venues with events happening on my uber map and allow me to click one button to buy a ride to the venue and a ticket at the same time! * For the love of god -- please update the Pandora Home Screen on the website app when listening to music so that the album art and the artist title are BIG and viewable from across the room! Loo…

My usability gripe:

If the album that Pandora has tagged a song as belonging to isn't available digitally on Amazon, but the same song is digitally available on another album, link to that. Don't imply that itunes is the only way to get it without ordering a CD.

Re: Pandora Acquires TicketFly for $450M

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Post by irishcoffee » Wed, Oct 07, 2015, 11:24 PM UTC

thaumasiotes wrote: post #57

jonknee wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which makes you part of Pandora's claim that they're the most used mobile app. Leaving a desktop computer streaming music on at work has nothing to do with mobile app usage.

It illustrates that music apps are likely to be in use for very long periods/proportions of time. maccard's comment was quite relevant; it's not at all unreasonable to read in "and other people might use pandora similarly to the way I use spotify".

Phone app, not PC website.

I'm not sure why GP is getting downvoted for pointing this out.