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They didn't build it; they acquired the company that built it.
Oh, I'm interested in the business decision behind that. For example why didn't they just buy (not acquire) the slack product. What were the reasons to host it in-house and manage it themselves.
Dropbox has open-sourced Zulip
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What annoys me about stuff like Slack is that it's misused. It's made for small teams but I've been 10k people open source projects use it instead of IRC. Of course, it was laggy and they eventually couldn't afford it.
Obfuscating usernames with real names and no ignore are also massive downsides.
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#54Any idea why this uses a forked version of Django? I read through docs and skimmed the repo but couldn't find anything that speaks to this...
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Oh, I'm interested in the business decision behind that. For example why didn't they just buy (not acquire) the slack product. What were the reasons to host it in-house and manage it themselves.
They got the team behind it, who now work on other parts of Dropobox
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#56Slack, Zulip, this feels like we are back in 1999, when the internet was divided by ICQ, AOL Instant Messanger, Windows Live Messanger, and Yahoo Messanger. (Instant/Live was a plus back then). And the only innovation over IRC was a backlog and buddy list. I wonder when the Trillian of Slack+Zulip will come out. I hope Trillian (which still exists) is already working on it.
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#57I was just about to try out Mattermost for our company communications. It integrates with a few things including gitlab, but Zulip seems to have a larger number of integration options, which is awesome. Anybody tried both and have thoughts on them? I still prefer to host my own infrastructure, and I want to be able to archive and categorize a discussion (after it's happened) for searchability, but a couple of our peo…
I think HipChat might be the only one backing the XMPP horse still. A timeline [1]. [1] https://cdn.sameroom.io/chat-timeline.pdf
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#58Slack, Zulip, this feels like we are back in 1999, when the internet was divided by ICQ, AOL Instant Messanger, Windows Live Messanger, and Yahoo Messanger. (Instant/Live was a plus back then). And the only innovation over IRC was a backlog and buddy list. I wonder when the Trillian of Slack+Zulip will come out. I hope Trillian (which still exists) is already working on it.
Only Slack and Zulip are for specific teams/companies, not for the public at large. So there's no "fragmentation" issue, any more that there's one when a company uses Bugzilla and the other uses JIRA.
What parent is talking about is a real problem. There's micro-ecosystems out there around specific closed source products, all of them centralized, none of them compatible... and in the mean time, the only real decentralized, open source group chat solution (IRC) has a lot of issues [1] which shouldn't exist in 2015.
[1] https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeromeLeclanche/posts/icC6gDToB...
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#59is this something like slack?
yep - very similar but with an emphasis on self hosting.