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A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

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Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

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In the long run, this is probably a benefit for Linux users. I always use Dell Precision laptops, and they usually support Linux pretty well (you can buy them with RHEL and even Ubuntu on some models).

Once sales and accounting begin to realize that using OEM devices poorly supported on Linux (e.g. Broadcom) means Chinese customers won't buy the hardware, they'll begin using more Linux friendly vendors such as Intel.

Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

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I wonder what spyware they have embedded in it? A distro brought to you by the Chinese government. I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA.

>I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA. So do you run a version of the Linux kernel where SELinux[0] has been merged into the mainline? [0] http://selinuxproject.org/page/Main_Page

SELinux is open source, is there any validity to a claim that SELinux performs anything other than securing the local operating system?

Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

#53
I cannot tell from the article but I wonder if this OS is completely open source? If not it seems a bit pointless to replace one with another one, which might have security problems just as well? Or is it just done to not have to pay a foreign company for an OS?

Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

#54
Can we please stop referring to spins and skins of existing Linux distributions as a whole new OS? There doesn't appear to be much hear that a highschool kid could not do in a few days. Pretty under whelming for an effort of a nation state of 1.3 billion people.

Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA. So do you run a version of the Linux kernel where SELinux[0] has been merged into the mainline? [0] http://selinuxproject.org/page/Main_Page

SELinux is open source, is there any validity to a claim that SELinux performs anything other than securing the local operating system?

There are no claims that SELinux does anything other than secure the system, but if you're going to distrust things based solely on who sponsored them (Chinese government for this Linux distribution) then it makes sense to ask if this logic is applied consistently.

To make it crystal clear: I'm not saying SELinux is untrustworthy. I am just asking the poster if they would trust SELinux knowing that it came from the NSA. I ask the same question of people when they claim that Windows/OS X is untrustworthy because the NSA may have made changes to spy on the user through it.

Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I would trust that as much as a distro brought to you by the NSA. So do you run a version of the Linux kernel where SELinux[0] has been merged into the mainline? [0] http://selinuxproject.org/page/Main_Page

Nope. I use apparmor. Interesting though. I didn't know that about SELinux.

Do you use a kernel with a version greater than 2.5? Then you have SELinux as a part of your kernel source, so the NSA has sponsored made changes to your kernel.

Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

#57

Can we please stop referring to spins and skins of existing Linux distributions as a whole new OS? There doesn't appear to be much hear that a highschool kid could not do in a few days. Pretty under whelming for an effort of a nation state of 1.3 billion people.

What does the population have to do with the complexity of the OS project?

Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

#58

Can we please stop referring to spins and skins of existing Linux distributions as a whole new OS? There doesn't appear to be much hear that a highschool kid could not do in a few days. Pretty under whelming for an effort of a nation state of 1.3 billion people.

What does the population have to do with the complexity of the OS project?

It has a direct impact on the resources the state has available to it.

Re: A first look at the OS the Chinese government wants to replace Windows

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. I use apparmor. Interesting though. I didn't know that about SELinux.

Do you use a kernel with a version greater than 2.5? Then you have SELinux as a part of your kernel source, so the NSA has sponsored made changes to your kernel.

Also a lot of Donald Becker's old network driver stuff in the kernel has a copyright assignment to DIRNSA. I don't know why, particularly because I thought Becker worked for NASA the whole time.
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