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Hilton hotels, can't unsubscribe because of account login forced. This is my new fix!
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I believe it uses a header the sender includes with the email http://www.list-unsubscribe.com/
Cool. I doubt those intrusive marketing emails will ever include that header though.
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People use the Report Spam button on things that they explicitly signed up for all the time, and Gmail has adjusted its behavior to match how users use it rather than try to persuade them to instead do the right thing.
Interesting. Isn't there an information loss since now they would have to infer the motive to decide whether to blacklist the sender?
Hilton hotels, can't unsubscribe because of account login forced. This is my new fix!
It's amazing how many unsubscribe links, which are mandated by law, are broken or flaky. I just "report spam" now when that happens, and it totally works. No regrets.
> That’s why you can now block specific email addresses in Gmail [...] Future mail will go to the spam folder (and you can always unblock in Settings). It's nice to have a one-click button for it, but this was already available by configuring a filter. You just need to select all emails from a particular address and then choose to always mark them as spam or send them directly into the trash. From the headline I was…
Would be interested to hear why it took so long to add this one-click functionality, which is common across clients, to Gmail. There must have been some internal disagreement on its implementation?
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Yep. I think less sophisticated users would be intimidated by creating a filter and this solves for that.
Yeah, the filter config for GMail is very full-featured. Like there are a dozen actions you can take on a mail, all listed on a single popup. Makes sense to provide an easier path.
I've unsubscribed from their mailing lists more times than I can remember.
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What I don't understand (possibly noob question), is the scenario where I get spam and I click on "Report spam" to be prompted with "Unsubscribe and report spam". I'd never subscribed to it so why am I asked whether I would like to "Unsubscribe". Is it that the spammers got hold of my email from somewhere and "Subscribed" me automatically? Shouldn't "Report spam" implicitly imply that it's not a subscription?
People use the Report Spam button on things that they explicitly signed up for all the time, and Gmail has adjusted its behavior to match how users use it rather than try to persuade them to instead do the right thing.
A checkbox hidden somewhere that's enabled by default doesn't mean that "I have subscribed" to the mailing list, both in the common sense and also is prohibited in many legal jurisdictions (not USA, AFAIK), leaving a default checkbox simply doesn't count as obtaining consent, it is a well known 'dark UI pattern' that even the consumer protection laws have understood and explicitly implemented.
Such messages are just another kind of spam, and the right thing to prevent this, naturally, is to block the sender as a spammer. Underneath there is somewhat proper a mailing list that supports unsubscription, so an unsubscribe message can and should also be sent, but it doesn't change the fact that all the subscribers were added without their informed consent - if you built a system with opt-in by default, then you yourself built a system where it is impossible to say that you actually want to subscribe, the only provided checkbox then represents a choice between the default (no informed consent) and an explicit refusal of consent.
