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Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL (1982)

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Re: Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL (1982)

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One irony is that modern Fortran is quite a nice language to work with. As long as you can just call, and don't actually have to work on, all the '77 numerical libraries that the Real Programmers put together.

This is true. I would still use it -- except that python is an even nicer language to work with and via numpy and scipy lots of those library are nicely wrapped.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL (1982)

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One of the programs closest to my heart which I use multiple times a day, "Beyond Compare" is written in PASCAL, Delphi more specifically. I know very little about PASCAL, but I know that Beyond Compare is rock solid.

Total Commander is also written in Delphi. Such a great program I would still be using if I was on windows.

You can use Double Commander (Linux version for you, I guess), which tries to be very close to Total Commander (plug-in compatibility even) and is written in Delphi too.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL (1982)

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The only thing I wish it had is more documentation for those of us who never did any Pascal. I love Lazarus too, but it's quite a lot to take in when you're used to other languages. I basically have to "Guess" how to write code, which can become a lot more work with Delphi / FreePascal.

Try to get your hands on an old copy of Delphi 1 or 2. Thousands of pages of documentation in PDF format. Docs used to be so much better back then, it's sad. I still have a copy of Delphi 7 lying around just because the help system was/is so good.

Sadly I was more concerned about FreePascal than Delphi as well. But yeah, it's sad that documentation is dead these days.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL (1982)

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I have actual nightmares about developing in Delphi. I can't believe there's a Delphi project that people speak this highly of.

Delphi's still around. You can even write mobile apps in it. http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi

Oh, I'm well aware of Delphi's continued existence. I'm maintaining a 15-year-old Delphi project right now.

I should be clear that I like Object Pascal. I just dislike the degree to which Delphi insists on holding your hand, and I hate the absurdly bloated code base for which that behavior is at least partly to blame.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL (1982)

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I have actual nightmares about developing in Delphi. I can't believe there's a Delphi project that people speak this highly of.

The one thing Delphi really did wrong was to make GUI programming too easy. It was just too simple, too tempting, to just put all your code into your MainForm.pas, making it grow to over 10'000 LOC. If (and only if) the programmers took care to avoid code duplication and cared about writing good, solid code, Delphi rocked. Just like Lazarus ( http://www.lazarus-ide.org/ ) does today. One of my weapons of choice nowad…

It's possible that being thrown at an ancient, loosely-managed Delphi project has given me a poor first impression of it.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use PASCAL (1982)

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Total Commander is also written in Delphi. Such a great program I would still be using if I was on windows.

You can use Double Commander (Linux version for you, I guess), which tries to be very close to Total Commander (plug-in compatibility even) and is written in Delphi too.

Unfortunately I'm on osx. But I already got used to coreutils, which are way more portable :)
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