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Fixing Twitter

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Re: Fixing Twitter

#51

Twitters problem, is that you had an idea, and it took 5243 characters to relate it. So, instead of using their platform you went elsewhere. (139 characters, maybe I should use twitter...)

and if you had written 5243 characters about what you just said (and you could have), then I wouldn't have read a word.

Re: Fixing Twitter

#52

I think it's time to rethink the 140 charcter limit. When people want to post more than 140 characters, they include it as an image (so not searchable), which is considerably more effort. Why not allow longer tweets, and only show the first 140 chars by default (along with an indication of how long it's going to be), and then load or show the rest on demand?

If you're interested in a service exactly like Twitter but without the limit, take a look at GNU Social - https://gnusocial.no . Granted, it's mostly developers on there, but Twitter was similar when it started.

Thanks for sharing that. I was vaguely aware of GNU Social, but didn't even realize there was a public GNU Social network available. I just signed up!

Re: Fixing Twitter

#53
post #22

I think it's time to rethink the 140 charcter limit. When people want to post more than 140 characters, they include it as an image (so not searchable), which is considerably more effort. Why not allow longer tweets, and only show the first 140 chars by default (along with an indication of how long it's going to be), and then load or show the rest on demand?

It's impossible to have meaningful conversations with that kind of limit. You end up having to use "1/N" over and over again. That limit has always left me wondering how Twitter even got started...

It actually got set like this because tweets were originally sent and received via SMS, which has a 160 char limit. The additional 20 characters were reserved for twitter metadata.

Re: Fixing Twitter

#54

I think it's time to rethink the 140 charcter limit. When people want to post more than 140 characters, they include it as an image (so not searchable), which is considerably more effort. Why not allow longer tweets, and only show the first 140 chars by default (along with an indication of how long it's going to be), and then load or show the rest on demand?

Because I mostly don't want longer text from people. Twitter forces people to be concise. One of my favorite things about Twitter is the large number of voices I can follow. More text per person means less voices.

That said, I think they could do it successfully if text were treated as another media attachment like photos or videos or links. People would still have to write a concise ~120 character intro; if I wanted more I could click to expand. But making main posts longer would be a great disappointment to me, possibly enough to kill my use of the platform.

Re: Fixing Twitter

#55
I love that the author is criticizing Twitter's UI, yet when I tried to find a date of the article, I had to mysteriously hover over the title of the post to see it magically appear before me.

Re: Fixing Twitter

#56
Twitter's problem is simpler: it is great for power users, shite for everyone else.

Twitter needs to curate the content I see better - especially for newer users. Twitter is boring as sin until you follow a few interesting people, then it becomes overwhelming as it adds too many more.

Twitter needs to focus on the feed being more malleable, both with and without personal effort from me.

Re: Fixing Twitter

#57
post #13

As I've written in past comments ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10094396 ), and as this post suggests, rebuilding developer relations and improving integrations would go a long way. There's a lot of potential locked in the platform right now; they should work on letting developers get access to it more easily and strive to remove the cloud of uncertainty that has built up around it (i.e., will they shut me do…

Do you think that's even possible? They really burned a lot of bridges with the way they treated developers in the past. Trying to build a business on top of somebody else's social networking platform has been a spectacularly bad bet the last 5 years or so. I sure wouldn't be first into that pool.

Re: Fixing Twitter

#58

I love that the author is criticizing Twitter's UI, yet when I tried to find a date of the article, I had to mysteriously hover over the title of the post to see it magically appear before me.

Ehh, it's right there at 0.05 opacity. It just gets opacity: 1 when hovering. Try tuning your monitor, you should really be able to see that.

Re: Fixing Twitter

#59
There might be no fixing Twitter. The reason Twitter grew imho is because of the rich ecosystem of developers they had. Those developers, time and time again, found new ways to use Twitter and did the development, marketing, and educating of the public. The result was rich engagement and growth.

Everyone had a different reason for using Twitter because there were so many apps. Now, those apps are gone. How do you go and tell the developer community to come back? How do you trust Twitter? The answer is you don't.

Re: Fixing Twitter

#60

I think it's time to rethink the 140 charcter limit. When people want to post more than 140 characters, they include it as an image (so not searchable), which is considerably more effort. Why not allow longer tweets, and only show the first 140 chars by default (along with an indication of how long it's going to be), and then load or show the rest on demand?

The 140 limit is a feature, not a bug. The character limit places the burden on the sender to compress their message, instead of forcing the receiver to read more. Shorter messages = faster reading = faster replying = a more active network.
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