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We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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> We believe that cloud computing is an amazing technology and that everybody should be able to benefit from its advantages. That's why we decided to reduce the price of the C1 Am I the only person who is turned off by that kind of marketing copy? You lowered prices because you thought you could sell more nodes, gain economy of scale, serve as a loss-leader, your costs went down, something. You didn't lower the price…

The world isn't black and white, you can want to help and make money at the same time.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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I have fantastic uptime on linode. Averages probably 9 months?

Is that just uptime as reported by the OS, or actual time between outages? The server can be happily churning away even if its network connection goes down. I've been on Linode for a while, and have also had a decent experience. However, I wouldn't use uptime as my only metric.

I will vouch for Linode. Also if you've never heard of Ramnode, they are my go-to VPS provider. I build actively monitored infrastructure with downtime notifications on the order of 5 minutes or less, so my story isn't just anecdote. I have bought hundreds of VPS over the years from a huge number of providers, and Ramnode is hands down absolutely the best provider. Excellent uptime and the VPS always feel snappy and responsive. It never feels oversubscribed like every other provider out there. Linode is also very good, too, IME.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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I have fantastic uptime on linode. Averages probably 9 months?

I've had a similar experience on Linode as well. In fact, in the few months that I have been using Digital Ocean for a personal server they have had more outages than the past ~2 years on Linode.

DO has really gone downhill. For some time they were top-of-the-heap for me with Ramnode and Linode, but lately (the last two years or so), they have really gone downhill with respect to overall quality.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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(The title currently just says '2,99 per month'. This should probably be changed "2.99€" instead, since a lot of people would expect HN to default to USD. Even I (living in Germany) was surprised it was in Euro.)

They are French so they bill in Euro. Btw, does anybody has news about that data center intercept bill passed in France in May? http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/05/france-is-one-step-closer-t...

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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post #50

> We believe that cloud computing is an amazing technology and that everybody should be able to benefit from its advantages. That's why we decided to reduce the price of the C1 Am I the only person who is turned off by that kind of marketing copy? You lowered prices because you thought you could sell more nodes, gain economy of scale, serve as a loss-leader, your costs went down, something. You didn't lower the price…

What's really odd is that if you take it at face value, the statement implies that they didn't care about helping people beforehand, or else the price would have been lower from the start.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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But... Scaleway is a spinoff of Online.net which offers fine (and cheap) dedicated Intel servers. I don't know (yet) the ping between Scaleway and online.net but it's probably low enough to allow scaling "workers" on ARM servers, while DBs are kept on 64bits dedicated Intel servers. Also if you want to scale horizontally, you probably want to scale on more than one datacenter (online provides that too).

speaking of online.net, they currently have a banner ad front and center on their homepage for scaleway which says: "Run up to 10 bare metal SSD cloud server for free" [1] Clicking through just lands me on the scaleway homepage. Can anybody shed some light on this? Clicking around their site and couldn't see any mention of it. [1] http://www.online.net/img/carousel/cloud.jpg screengrab: http://imgur.com/cuvZlgb

Scaleway offer the first month for free, and the maximum amount of servers you can have running during the free trial is limited to 10, to benefit just signup on https://www.scaleway.com

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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post #51
post #50

> We believe that cloud computing is an amazing technology and that everybody should be able to benefit from its advantages. That's why we decided to reduce the price of the C1 Am I the only person who is turned off by that kind of marketing copy? You lowered prices because you thought you could sell more nodes, gain economy of scale, serve as a loss-leader, your costs went down, something. You didn't lower the price…

The world isn't black and white, you can want to help and make money at the same time.

I think the point is the disbelief in the cause and effect relationship as presented. I too find it a little hard to swallow that the reason the price was lowered is because they want everyone to be able to benefit from cloud computing advantages.

More likely in my estimation is that the cause and effect are reversed, and they wanted to lower prices (to gain market share, users and an advertising blurb) and that has the nice effect of opening cloud computing up to more people.

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But... Scaleway is a spinoff of Online.net which offers fine (and cheap) dedicated Intel servers. I don't know (yet) the ping between Scaleway and online.net but it's probably low enough to allow scaling "workers" on ARM servers, while DBs are kept on 64bits dedicated Intel servers. Also if you want to scale horizontally, you probably want to scale on more than one datacenter (online provides that too).

speaking of online.net, they currently have a banner ad front and center on their homepage for scaleway which says: "Run up to 10 bare metal SSD cloud server for free" [1] Clicking through just lands me on the scaleway homepage. Can anybody shed some light on this? Clicking around their site and couldn't see any mention of it. [1] http://www.online.net/img/carousel/cloud.jpg screengrab: http://imgur.com/cuvZlgb

They've had this deal for some time, just sign up and they won't charge for max 10 c1's the first month.

They will however charge for IPs, and they are not auto-released when instances are destroyed, need to be done explicitly.

I wish (cheaper) IPv6 support would be available, for lots of experimenting I don't need a public expensive IPv4 addr...

Re: We are slashing the C1 price by 70 percent

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post #50

> We believe that cloud computing is an amazing technology and that everybody should be able to benefit from its advantages. That's why we decided to reduce the price of the C1 Am I the only person who is turned off by that kind of marketing copy? You lowered prices because you thought you could sell more nodes, gain economy of scale, serve as a loss-leader, your costs went down, something. You didn't lower the price…

Some things don't happen for only one reason. This is a business so obviously it is profit oriented, but it doesn't rule out that the company wants to actually do something good for the society.
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