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Angular 2 Survey Results

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Re: Angular 2 Survey Results

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Post by gjolund »

lsiunsuex wrote: post #38
ebbv wrote: post #6

I was really hoping this was a survey to Angular 1.x developers asking how annoyed you are that Angular 2 completely changed everything. Angular 2 should have been a new framework, IMHO.

I'll defend ebbv I have no intention of migrating V1 apps to V2 - it would be a waste of time and money. And until I see real world examples of V2 performance or adoption, I'll continue to use V1 due to the incredible amount of 3rd party code that works with it - which I'm assuming, is alllll gonna need to be re-written to work with V2. What if PHP 7 broke all backwards compatibility with PHP 5 unless hacks were used…

v2 cemented the fact that I will never willing build another angular app. I have no interest in frameworks that do not provide clear upgrade paths.

Re: Angular 2 Survey Results

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Post by andrewmcwatters »

Nemcue wrote: post #48
martin_ wrote: post #37

It's a shame that jQuery was included within "What frameworks other than Angular 1.x do you use regularly today? (choose multiple)". Why not throw lodash/underscore in too?

Because they are libraries, not frameworks.

And jQuery is... surprise! A library.

Re: Angular 2 Survey Results

#54

Post by twrkit »

nateabele wrote: post #22

Hey, UI Router lead dev here. I'm interested in any & all feedback people have regarding Component Router vs. UI Router, what they like/don't like, and whether or how much they'd like to see UI Router support for Angular 2.

Just wanna say, huge fan of UI Router, thank you so much for your hard work! Makes my life so much easier :)

Re: Angular 2 Survey Results

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Post by wylie »

gjolund wrote: post #51
lsiunsuex wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll defend ebbv I have no intention of migrating V1 apps to V2 - it would be a waste of time and money. And until I see real world examples of V2 performance or adoption, I'll continue to use V1 due to the incredible amount of 3rd party code that works with it - which I'm assuming, is alllll gonna need to be re-written to work with V2. What if PHP 7 broke all backwards compatibility with PHP 5 unless hacks were used…

v2 cemented the fact that I will never willing build another angular app. I have no interest in frameworks that do not provide clear upgrade paths.

The Angular team listened to the community and has been working on an upgrade path. I found this blog post useful in convincing my team that we are not going to be wasting time as long as we continue to follow angular and JS best practices:

http://angularjs.blogspot.com/2015/08/angular-1-and-angular-...

Re: Angular 2 Survey Results

#57

Post by dcherman »

toupeira wrote: post #53
andrewmcwatters wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And jQuery is... surprise! A library.

It does have some framework properties, like the whole plugin mechanism.

That barely qualifies imo. The plugin mechanism is just prototypical inheritance - you're just adding methods to a prototype, nothing more.

Re: Angular 2 Survey Results

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Post by cheapsteak »

ebbv wrote: post #6

I was really hoping this was a survey to Angular 1.x developers asking how annoyed you are that Angular 2 completely changed everything. Angular 2 should have been a new framework, IMHO.

Out of curiosity, what would you say your experience level is with Angular 1.x? (based on the criteria in the survey)

Re: Angular 2 Survey Results

#59

Post by WhitneyLand »

nateabele wrote: post #22

Hey, UI Router lead dev here. I'm interested in any & all feedback people have regarding Component Router vs. UI Router, what they like/don't like, and whether or how much they'd like to see UI Router support for Angular 2.

My vote is for the Angular team to stay away from ui-router because you are difficult to deal with, based on multiple discussion threads I've seen 'round the net.

Your code is good but not sufficiently better than component router to justify the friction.

Re: Angular 2 Survey Results

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Post by antod »

xorcist wrote: post #35
paulhauggis wrote: post #21

It's funny how so many development communities feel like they need to start over and create an entire new framework. Perl 6, PHP 6 (which was never released), the disaster that is Python 2/3 (many standard libraries were renamed breaking a ton of libraries, and now Angular. PHP, which is hated by many here because it isn't hip, at least allows you to run 4 code on the 5 interpreter with no issues. When Microsoft did…

> PHP [...] at least allows you to run 4 code on the 5 interpreter with no issues Speaking as someone who at one time made a living porting PHP4 code to PHP5, that's not even the same ballpark as reality. No non-trivial code base made that transition without effort. But it is of course possible to write code that runs on both versions, which may be the source of the confusion. Guess why all cheap web hosting companie…

Yeah I remember occasions when PHP x.y.z patch releases would break existing code.

Sure it can be possible to run PHP4 code on PHP5, but only AFTER you have tested and debugged it on the newer PHP version.

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