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An Ex-Cop's War on Lie Detectors

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Re: An Ex-Cop's War on Lie Detectors

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I hate to say it, but that's what you get for seeking help from a TV psychologist. You're insane if you think a TV show is there to help you.

Victim-blaming is cool, sometimes? Just not when its a PC issue. What the actual fuck?

If by "victim blaming", you mean "criticizing someone for taking a stupid action that a reasonable person could assume would end badly".

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I wouldn't be so quick to discount the technology's potential. While the commercial operation you cited is probably dubious at best, and while it may be true that the current state of the technology is as unreliable as you say for the purposes of credibility assessment, I still believe the future of fMRI research holds incredible potential. Keep in mind that as far back as 2011, researchers succeeded in reconstructin…

That study is likely closer to BS than you might think. http://www.wired.com/2009/09/fmrisalmon/

True, although I cannot help but feel that your supporting evidence for this claim is somewhat fishy.

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Victim-blaming is cool, sometimes? Just not when its a PC issue. What the actual fuck?

If by "victim blaming", you mean "criticizing someone for taking a stupid action that a reasonable person could assume would end badly".

> "criticizing someone for taking a stupid action that a reasonable person could assume would end badly".

Its her fault she got raped, she wore a SHORT SKIRT.

Edit: fuck you.

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I hate to say it, but that's what you get for seeking help from a TV psychologist. You're insane if you think a TV show is there to help you.

He's not a Psychologist or any sort of a doctor at all. Just another modern day Jerry Springer act. In a real polygraph exam a baseline is established and you review all the questions "before" the test is run so that there is no surprise when they are asked the second time. Even then the nature of the questions can elicit a measurable response. The best advice I ever got from a polygraph examiner was to never volunta…

> The best advice I ever got from a polygraph examiner was to never voluntarily take one. Advice given while I was strapped to his machine. Never could be sure if he was being sincere or just manipulating me.

I believe he was being sincere. If you think about it, if the best it can do is simply not provide evidence against you. The worst it can do is make you look guilty, whether you are or not. That's a pretty bad deal for you.

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If by "victim blaming", you mean "criticizing someone for taking a stupid action that a reasonable person could assume would end badly".

> "criticizing someone for taking a stupid action that a reasonable person could assume would end badly". Its her fault she got raped, she wore a SHORT SKIRT. Edit: fuck you.

People like you never seem to distinguish between (a) pointing out what is unreasonable/imprudent, and (b) claiming that a given misfortune was deserved.

It would be comical if you weren't so unpleasant and rude.

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I hate to say it, but that's what you get for seeking help from a TV psychologist. You're insane if you think a TV show is there to help you.

Injustice against the ignorant or less intelligent is still injustice.

No argument here. My point is that bad ideas are still bad ideas (although perhaps my point could have been better-phrased).

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No. You will be charged with "possession of a controlled substance" in the UK even if the substance was not a controlled substance just so long as they can demonstrate you thought it was. E.g. the cops can set up a "drug deal" to sell you cocaine, sell you talcum powder and then arrest you for buying it, so long as they can demonstrate you think it is cocaine - such as saying "here's that cocaine you wanted".

Same is US, if you sell fake drugs you will be prosecuted as if you sold those drugs.

This seems fair, especially if we want the opposite to be true: if you buy what you legitimately think is talcum powder, and it ends up actually being cocaine, that shouldn't be a crime!

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Victim-blaming is cool, sometimes? Just not when its a PC issue. What the actual fuck?

If by "victim blaming", you mean "criticizing someone for taking a stupid action that a reasonable person could assume would end badly".

Don't forget that people who appear on those shows get paid. At least scale wages if not more, plus accommodations, all of which is considerable for people living within ordinary means. Combined with the thrill of being on tv it can b.s. An overwhelming experience, which explains why so many people do it. But much of it cones down to financial and emotional manipulation.
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