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Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by nitwit005 »

This feels poorly marketed. The examples like health, travel, and kid's education all have a ton of anxiety around them. Highlighting a confirm button existing is recognizing the problem, but isn't a fix.

You can see this not working in existing products. Alexa could book a flight for you in 2018. I've never heard of anyone using that feature. Travel planning can be extremely complex, so it's challenging to make people trust a tool is going to do the right thing.

Also, I know this is picky, but your mascot should not feel like it'd feature in a list of worst Olympic mascots.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by XCSme »

abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

I think all AI companies want to capture normie users too, it's a huge market.

All ChatGPT, Claude, Google, Microsoft have/want to have their own assistants.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by psychoslave »

enos_feedler wrote: post #483
dd8601fn wrote: post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The joke of it is that I see those same people (ones who haven’t heard “LLM” before, don’t know what a model is or even the vaguest idea how these work, etc) have very strong opinions on the state of AI, where it’s headed, and are willing to make projections with timelines. Bill Maher is one example.

This problem has permeated everywhere. Nobody can predict the future. Even VCs can’t and yet I’ll get a weekly email with a confident narrative about the future. Looking at a16z. CEOs do this as well. Listen to Satya talk about how AI will transform things. We’ve trained everyone else to casually state what the future will look like on timelines. As if it’s knowable at all.

What is a16z please?

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by zxexz »

parl_match wrote: post #446
rpozarickij wrote: post #430

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen people using "chat" to refer to ChatGPT because it's easier/simpler. I'm pretty sure an average person has no idea that chat.com will redirect you to chatgpt.com (or what a redirect is for that matter). It's similar to how people were calling the COVID-19 pandemic or the virus itself "covid".

people in the industry, especially those who work for oai, refer to it as "chat" at least in the ai industry, chat is like kleenex

I've heard it as shorthand, in-context. Never heard it being chat-as-in-kleenex. I've supposedly been in the industry since before ChatGPT. Maybe that's where I went wrong :D

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by MisterMunchkin »

abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

I met a normie who was using ChatGPT to write production code… in instant mode. No thinking enabled.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by VectorLock »

psychoslave wrote: post #494
enos_feedler wrote: post #483

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This problem has permeated everywhere. Nobody can predict the future. Even VCs can’t and yet I’ll get a weekly email with a confident narrative about the future. Looking at a16z. CEOs do this as well. Listen to Satya talk about how AI will transform things. We’ve trained everyone else to casually state what the future will look like on timelines. As if it’s knowable at all.

What is a16z please?

Andreessen Horowitz, a venture capital firm.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by phil21 »

bluegatty wrote: post #295
abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

They are not 'normies' - we're just 'nerds'. You're driving a home kit car, they're driving something out of the factory. Eventually - we'll probably drive factory variations as well.

Yeah you’re describing normies. They are the norm. It’s in the name. People as described make up the vast majority of the population.

Nerds have always been in the extreme minority. Ignoring the influx of cosplaying MBA financing bros and industry hangers-on as tech became the place where the money is of course. The tech industry started attracting the normies as soon as it became almost as lucrative as finance, so these days the definition gets a little blurry.

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by michaelt »

XCSme wrote: post #493
abixb wrote: post #234

I think Meta's strategy is to capture the 'normie-tier' of AI users. I know most of us here on HN track model releases quite frequently and discuss every parameter weight out of them, but most of the world is just... oblivious? I was discussing latest in tech with an accounting friend out of curiosity, and I kept talking about tiers of GPT-5.6 (Sol vs Terra vs Luna) and asked which one she used on the desktop 'Work'…

I think all AI companies want to capture normie users too, it's a huge market. All ChatGPT, Claude, Google, Microsoft have/want to have their own assistants.

> I think all AI companies want to capture normie users too, it's a huge market.

Huge revenue? Or just huge volume?

If I boost the productivity of a $100k employee by 50%, a business will happily pay $1k/month and consider it a great deal.

But from what I've heard, consumer-facing LLMs find most users won't hand over even $20/month (which is a heavily subsidised price anyway).

Re: Muse – Meta’s personal AI agent

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Post by weitendorf »

Grombobulous wrote: post #294

I think the product as shown in this marketing material with these examples falls squarely in the “nobody asked for this” territory of AI. At least with B2B AI there is a problem to be solved: reduce my labor costs and increase my business output. What’s happened here is that consumer technology is already solved, but companies like Meta are trying to jam AI technology into something that solves the non-problems that…

Try asking it to find a good deal for you for across multiple sites. Then tell it to use the browser to navigate through the two most promising sites to confirm pricing and availability, and prepare comprehensive breakdown with its findings.

People shop a lot on the internet, actually. Between that and ads for the things people shop for, it’s pretty much the backbone of the Internet economy.

I bet they would purchase more things than they currently do, and seriously break the economics of Google/Amazon search ads (about $300B of yearly spending just for those two), display ads, and internet-first e-commerce sites if they could just ask an agent working for them to help research/source/purchase things without all the navigation and dark patterns in the middle. Personally I would probably spend at least $1k/yr more on snack/beverage subscriptions alone if it had less friction.

> working class peasant consumer

You mean the majority of people in the world? Most people only their computers to entertain themselves, look things up, buy stuff, and complete tedious tasks (taxes, email, etc) they’d rather not do.

How much do you and your peers spend a year on online shopping and how much do they pay out of pocket for SAAS or AI tokens? And how many of your offline purchases had a significant amount of associated online research involved despite technically completing offline? (Houses, cars, schools, hardware) Yeah that’s pretty much where all the money in the global software industry comes from

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