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> it's supposedly responsive and representative of the people's needs. It's damn near proven that the US representative branch doesn't give a shit about its electorate, within margin of error. https://www.jstor.org/stable/43281052
...and it's our job to fix that... yours and mine.
France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
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Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#492Are calls originating in France a major source of these unsolicited calls? According to the article, a lot of the calls are coming from Morocco, outside of their jurisdiction. I'm in North America and most of the calls I get are using local numbers, often spoofed from (I suspect) South and South East Asia. Good luck enforcing Canadian or American law in literal slave camps on the China-Myanmar border.
So, this is specifically for telemarketing call, not scam call. In the context of telemarketing, it doesn't matter that the company call center is outsourced in other country. The company who contracted them are in France, trying to sell their business in France, they are responsible. So if you get a telemarketing call from RandoCallCenterCo S.A trying to sell you on BusinessABC Ltd., they have been contracted by sai…
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Is there a technical reason why phone numbers would be easier to spoof in North America than other places? Anecdotally I’ve not heard as much about it being a problem in other places such as the UK.
I'd say the deregulation of the telephone industry in America, breaking up the baby Bells, etc would have probably been the biggest hand. We broke everything up and let any old player enter the telco world over here which broke the entire sanctity of the security of the telephone network.
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Once a week, LOL. I get 3-6 calls per day (USA).
You know, this comment + https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49208950 ("sitting on my bench with the neighbor's calico meowing at me, when fully automatic gunfire would ring out") gives me the impression that the US really is a completely upside down country compared to most others out there, but people are just so used to it, they don't understand what kind of dystopian world they already live in every day. Years a…
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> Most of the civil rights we have in modern life comes from either protests or protests evolving into riots or protests evolving into riots evolving into civil wars, one way or another. But it always starts with protests. Right. What I'm saying is that the protests I've seen haven't been useful. I think it's either time to escalate or stop. > You might still be young I'm almost 40.
> Right. What I'm saying is that the protests I've seen haven't been useful. I think it's either time to escalate or stop. Right, but just because the protests you've been to in your 40 years haven't worked in the way you wished, doesn't mean you think every single protest through all time also been unsuccessful in changing anything, right? With that comes that protests can be successful, and the trick is to figure o…
I don't really care about historical protests tbh, that's the past. They may have been effective at the time but that's a different context, with different values and virtues
We have to operate in today's environment which is one where protest is just viewed as a part of daily life, an annoyance to be tuned out, like walking past a homeless person on the sidewalk
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As someone who used to be in SaaS sales selling a complex platform, this might be the case for you if you're constantly doing a lot of research and keeping up with the market, but it's not for the vast majority of others. I can't tell you how many software engineers and leaders I cold called who thought our platform did one thing, but was surprised to learn we GA'ed a different capability, and then they'd mention the…
Cold calling people at work is different than calling them at home when they’re not working.
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You can't ask for this data over phone, you can't pay over phone.
I obviously can. I can call anybody and ask them for all sorts of stuff. I'm asking what, in your proposed world, would stop me.
The info would still be on the mag strip, but the vast majority of people would be unable to pay over the phone anymore. Or the internet.
Re: France to ban unsolicited telemarketing calls
#4981785994091 | France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week | https://apnews.com/article/france-unsolicited-telemarketing-... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49192829
1786426630 | France Bans Unsolicited Telemarketing Calls | https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/11/world/europe/france-ban-u... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49253772
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#499This is a great move by France, but most of the rest of the world does not suffer from the telemarketing scam hell that Americans do. I am a US citizen living overseas. I have a US cell number that is only used for 2FA for US financial institutions. No one else has that number. I get more scam calls every day on that number than I do in a year on my local number. It's crazy. Most of the world has solved the worst of…
For instance your main bank calling you for "special offers", even as you've already explicitly told them you don't want any marketing calls, would be candidate to punishment under this rule.
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Don't conduct your religious practices onto me please.
I'm personally atheistic, and thus have no religious practices whatsoever. However, just like it's legal to build churches, to ring church bells, to wear visible religious imagery, it's also legal and highly protected to talk to others, even strangers, about your religious beliefs (or lack thereof).