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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by alecco »

monegator wrote: post #468
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

If only it was based in europe. Every few weeks i look into detaching from gmail and wonder if proton is the way to go

Proton's being a bit slow and weird is totally worth it just for the privacy features. And it's slowly improving with time.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by distances »

40four wrote: post #451

Oh man, I left Gmail 6-7 years ago for different reasons (a total overhaul & hardening of my personal privacy/ security posture), but kudos to you! Get away and don’t look back, you won’t regret it! I’d recommend de-googling your life of all their services, you really don’t need them. There are good, more privacy respecting options for just about everything except maps. Google Maps is the one service I still use cons…

There are very good map alternatives, like Organic Maps and HERE WeGo. But Google's place data is such a good moat that I'm also still using it.

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Post by behringer »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

Google doesn't have app passwords anymore so plus one for fastmail.

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Post by elnerd »

microtonal wrote: post #483
teekert wrote: post #481

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been very happy with Protonmail, you can even use your old Gmail address from within Protonmail [0]. Although arguable doing that is counter productive, you want receive gmails but reply with you new address -> Yes this is the time to buy a domain and own an address for the rest of your life, so you can move again with little pain in the future ;) [0] https://proton.me/blog/proton-mail-connect-gmail

I temporarily moved from Fastmail to Proton Mail, but found several downsides: * Loading mails (especially when going quickly through them) has quite some latency. Possibly due to decrypting. * Search is pretty bad compared to Fastmail. * The keyboard shortcuts seem to never work correctly. So I went back to Fastmail for mail (we still use Proton Drive, which has its own set of warts).

I changed from Gmail to proton many years ago.

The only pain point I have is the search. Understandable, the emails are encrypted and search has to be done on the client. That works when using the web hi as you have the option to index all emails.

I do not find this option in the iOS app :(

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Post by dotancohen »

notpushkin wrote: post #475
locknitpicker wrote: post #459

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> Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email. Because the UX of most email clients is extremely bad when compared with the webui of these email providers.

Try Mailspring. I’m a huge fan: https://github.com/Foundry376/Mailspring

That's an electron app. What does it offer that Thunderbird doesn't?

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Post by distances »

ern wrote: post #354

Something I hate about ChatGPT is that it assumes I want my text to be rewritten instead of engaging with the content. I like my writing style. Sure it may leave some sort of linguistic fingerprint and it may not meet some LLM’s idea of what “good” looks like, but I don’t care. What’s worrying is that the rewrite-by-default behavior is probably there because most users want it.

I can't allow LLMs write my messages in any language I'm fluent in. They just don't sound like me at all. It would feel dirty and dishonest to send that slop out.

They can be good at grammar checks, but even then I wouldn't fix quite everything, it's better to let some of my natural flaws go through.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by dotancohen »

teekert wrote: post #481
cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

I've been very happy with Protonmail, you can even use your old Gmail address from within Protonmail [0]. Although arguable doing that is counter productive, you want receive gmails but reply with you new address -> Yes this is the time to buy a domain and own an address for the rest of your life, so you can move again with little pain in the future ;) [0] https://proton.me/blog/proton-mail-connect-gmail

  > Yes this is the time to buy a domain and own an address for the rest of your life
As someone who does use their own domain to receive mail, I am acutely aware of how diligent I must be to never lose that domain. The chances of someone acquiring access to my Gmail account are far lower than me losing the dotancohen.com domain, especially with the cyber attacks against Israeli assets that have been ongoing incessantly since 2023. One's email is often the gateway to every other online service, via reset password features - losing access is problematic and an attacker getting access is nigh unrecoverable.

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Post by lionkor »

elictronic wrote: post #139
bossyTeacher wrote: post #41

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It's hilarious seeing people complain about Microsoft when a free alternative exists. Humans are really curious creatures.

Up until very recently gaming is the only thing keeping my l and millions of others main pc from being Linux or Mac. I dual booted in the past but was annoyed. With all the work steam has put in I’m personally about 6 months out from just dumping Microsoft on all my personal products. It’s impressive they have dropped the ball so hard that it’s causing a complete rethink for so many users like myself. Bullet >> golde…

"Recently" is around 5 or 6 years ago.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by dotancohen »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #327

Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail. It has everything Gmail has - even app passwords, hide my email, and ios integration. The only criticism is the calendar doesn’t autocomplete addresses so that’s a bit more typing than I would like. But everything you do in Fastmail is instant . They live up to the name! Once you try it and go back, you’ll be shocked -…

  > Looking for your alternative? Let me give you some (non financially motivated) praise for Fastmail.
In TFA the author specifically mentions triaging Fastmail. He is happy with it.

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Post by Caracas288 »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #437
BTBurke wrote: post #419

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If the email body contains the word unsubscribe, send it to the promotional folder. One rule to rule them all.

And then my banking updates go into promotions. Along with notifications I set up on streaming sites, and newsletters, and patreon posts. It's not that simple.

Someone creating a more intuitive, graph-based UI for rules would be good, otherwise it’s easy to get lost in the overlapping mess, like you have to run the ‘bank email’ rule run before the ‘promotion’ rule, but after the ‘important’ rule.

Gmail’s auto-sorting is extremely simple to look at, but is out of the user’s control, it’s like a secretary handling your letters instead of a predictable system

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