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I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by contagiousflow »

schnitzelstoat wrote: post #13

While I agree with him that the US is becoming more unpredictable, I don't think the EU is much better, especially with regards to digital things where they can be worse in some ways. For example, they are discussing restricting VPN access for 'child protection'[1] [1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_AT...

US: Threatens own democracy, invades other nations, threatens sovereignty of long standing allies.

EU: Slowly makes laws with consideration of how much power the largest companies have over consumers.

Surely you can tell the difference between these two things.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by saulapremium »

frumplestlatz wrote: post #392
tcp_handshaker wrote: post #374

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>Seems strange to me that not everyone, including republicans, aren't aware of >this, when he's pretty outspoken about not wanting any more elections, and how >"if you vote for me this time, it'll be the last time you have to vote". 1) Puerto Ricans were called publicly on a Trump rally in New York, an "island of garbage" and they massively voted for Trump . - Second generation Latinos, whose many parents, and grand…

If you find yourself with a view of reality that massively differs from others, you have two options. (1) Assume they’re irrational, uninformed, and wrong, or (2) Reconsider your priors and attempt to understand why they think the way that they do. Let’s take the “island of garbage”. It was said by a comedian during his set. The Trump campaign stated “this joke does not reflect the views of President Trump or the cam…

I think the viral quote "Dear America: You are waking up, as Germany once did, to the awareness that 1/3 of your people would kill another 1/3, while 1/3 watches." is probably pretty apt. The IRGC also has real support among the Iranian population. Putin clearly has strong support in Russia.

Generally, a lot of people are just not good people.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by mosburger »

monokai_nl wrote: post #465
mosburger wrote: post #202

I wonder if the author considered moving payment processing to Adyen from Stripe? They're also EU-based and a bit more... well known? I liked integrating with them in the past.

I'm considering Adyen and Mollie, but presently lacking the time to properly investigate and redo my payment flows. It will happen at some point.

Checkout.com (UK) might be another worth checking. :) [I'm a "payments guy" for my day job].

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by theICEBeardk »

embedding-shape wrote: post #258
mrits wrote: post #253

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From the a US perspective, EU hate each other and I see no way any temporary cohesiveness will last. Most EU countries are just as likely to elect a Trump in the next decade

> EU hate each other What gave you the impression that EU members hate each other? It'd be a weird union if that was the case. Not saying it's not possible, I just haven't seen it myself, although I am a Swede so clearly I do hate the Danes and the Norrbaggar with passion, but it's love-hate, not hate-hate.

We love-hate you and the Norwegian Fjellaber as well, you Swedish drunkard.

A Dane.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by jlundberg »

Worf wrote: post #483

While the EU currently offers more privacy than the US, the best solution would be to use services which no one could have any meaningful control over, as much as possible, except the user. Self-hosting (including object storage, backups, CDNs) is hard, but doable for some companies. For others it's life-and-death due to costs. Analytics should be kept at a minimum and should always be self-hosted. Email should die a…

I am so happy email is not dead.

We need more playing fields and protocols new players can enter with being blocked by a gatekeeper.

One could argue Google and Microsoft are gatekeepes for email and in some sense they are. But at least it’s possible to challenge their power both technically and policy wise. Eventually it will fade.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by Unfunkyufo »

dsl wrote: post #396
weberer wrote: post #347

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>I don't think I've seen such a clear shift in public opinion so fast before Its not about public opinion, but rather data sovereignty requirements. Certain types of data must be processed within servers located in the EU, regardless of where the company's HQ is. That's why you see most SaaS platforms nowadays offer a EU-only version.

Which is just wildly backwards. It is the same mindset of the cyberpunk "privacy advocates" of the early 2000s, move your stuff to Sealand or Switzerland. The fundamental flaw with this plan is if your fear is genuinely of the United States, your data is far more protected inside the US. The intelligence community has no restrictions operating on foreign networks and servers. Rather than go to a FISA court for approv…

As an advocate (and practitioner) of European digital sovereignty, let me tell you, at least from my perspective, it has absolutely nothing to do with fear of US intelligence agencies spying on us, and everything to do with the catastrophic consequences of an unreliable and unstable American government pulling the plug on our vital infrastructure, or at least the very least weaponizing our dependency on American companies.

I live in Denmark, a country whose primary threat at the moment is the USA, and the thought of Donald Trump effectively having a kill-switch to our highly digitalized society is absolutely frightening. Reducing our dependence on American tech means that we are less vulnerable to a hostile power using it to extort us out of our territory. We cannot remove the threat entirely, but we can make the pain less extreme.

Other EU countries are also seeing things this way, that the US no longer has a stable government and is no longer a friendly country. Who cares about American spying when the real threat is your country being turned off?

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by jlundberg »

BaudouinVH wrote: post #302

European-based alternative to github : https://codeberg.org/ The hub for european alternatives : https://european-alternatives.eu/

The problem with that hub is that it is not being updated.

I guess the founded had trouble coping with the big attention it got and was swamped with submissions.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by gib444 »

shimman wrote: post #420
gib444 wrote: post #325

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I'll preface this with a statement that as a European I want European alternatives to succeed, and MS-owned GitHub to shrivel and disappear. But in case anyone from Codeberg reads this, IMO landing and signup pages need a lot of improvements: > Codeberg is a non-profit, community-led effort that provides services to free and open-source projects, such as Git hosting (using Forgejo) OK, so do I register for Codeberg o…

This is a lot of whining over nothing... not everyone wants to copy big tech.

It was not meant as whining. Did you fail to realise my points were aimed at gaining a bigger audience and increasing sign ups? An attempt at constructive criticism

> not everyone wants to copy big tech.

Yeah sure increasing signups is the same as copying the entire big tech industry. Please. What a ridiculous leap

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