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Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

theptip wrote: post #434
simonw wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They later said: https://twitter.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/204672549859272297... > When we do land on something, if it affects existing subscribers you'll get plenty of notice before anything changes. Will hear it from us, not a screenshot on X or Reddit. If you don't want things like this spreading through screenshots of X and Reddit, don't run "tests" like this in the first place! (Also "if it affects existing subs…

It’s pretty reasonable to say “demand is way up, quality is up, supply is constrained, and so price needs to rise”. It seems weird to segment this way though. Surely it’s better to just give Sonnet to your bottom tier, rather than cut out the entire Claide Code product entirely? Give folks a taste rather than lock the whole product behind a $100/mo plan.

But if Sonnet is bad it would give bad impression of the product, no? And it also takes compute, so you give a bad hallucinating impression of your product while still losing compute.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by karl_gluck »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #441
Esophagus4 wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few enterprise customers I know are upgrading to the higher plan now that their limits have been nuked. I imagine Anthropic is trying to see how many users they can push to higher tiers with these new squeezes. I hate to say it but I imagine it will work. It’s going to suck for me, because I had gotten used to ridiculously cheap tokens, but I guess the era of subsidized tokens is over.

Most real businesses are on API billing, not Max.

You have said this in a few places throughout the thread. At this point, citation is needed.

I work for a real business and switched from API billing to max+overflow. It saves money. It’s crazy not to. What are you talking about?

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by ElectricalUnion »

mewpmewp2 wrote: post #487
edg5000 wrote: post #465

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But the API is incredibly expensive. I calculated that I would have spent 3000 EUR the last month, a lot more than the 100 I pay now.

Nothing for large companies though.

I am pretty sure that a hole in the pocket in the order of 50 000 000 USD/month (assuming around 20 000 people using AI in not the smartest or most optimized way possible, therefore burning A LOT of tokens) will be noticeable by even the largest companies.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

ElectricalUnion wrote: post #493
mewpmewp2 wrote: post #487

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing for large companies though.

I am pretty sure that a hole in the pocket in the order of 50 000 000 USD/month (assuming around 20 000 people using AI in not the smartest or most optimized way possible, therefore burning A LOT of tokens) will be noticeable by even the largest companies.

It is noticeable and even promoted, large companies do pay such sums for the API, like $5k+ per person per month. Not every eng is using AI that much already, but companies are clearly willing to pay those sums.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by well_ackshually »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #441
Esophagus4 wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A few enterprise customers I know are upgrading to the higher plan now that their limits have been nuked. I imagine Anthropic is trying to see how many users they can push to higher tiers with these new squeezes. I hate to say it but I imagine it will work. It’s going to suck for me, because I had gotten used to ridiculously cheap tokens, but I guess the era of subsidized tokens is over.

Most real businesses are on API billing, not Max.

If your definition of "real businesses" is "Fortune 500, US based tech company with more money than sense or just happy to bleed VC money", sure, 99.999% of businesses are not real businesses.

You may also have a very narrow view of how the world actually works, left as an exercise to the reader to figure out which one it is

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by darkstar_16 »

epenn wrote: post #281
rideontime wrote: post #209

Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.

Hopefully the negative responses in that thread + the conversation here on HN might help them realize that totally removing Code access for Pro users isn't a good look. And with no free trial period on top of that, nobody is going to want to pay $100+ just to check it out. I can't imagine the conversion rate of that test being positive.

I think they're at that stage where people know they want it so lack of a trial isn't a deal breaker per se.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by kelsey98765431 »

HWR_14 wrote: post #467
deaux wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole Silicon Valley VC industry and the majority of the net worth of SWEs on HN is based on dumping. "Burning VC cash" is transparently dumping, and it's squarely what the US big tech dominance is founded on. Amazon, Uber, Youtube, now LLMs. The huge majority of "success stories" of the last 15 years are based on dumping their product far below cost price, running at a loss for years until they dominate the mark…

I didn't think Amazon engaged in dumping.

2 day shipping is dumping i guess

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by KiroWorker »

eaf7e281 wrote: post #330

Note that some companies, like Amazon, purchased and ran the Claude on their own hardware. They didn't change the model parameters during the Claude Opus 4.6 karma. If Anthropic continues to getting worse, try Amazon Kiro and other companies that run Claude on their own hardware. It might be expensive and have a worse experience compared to Claude's code, but at least the model itself is the "original flavor." These…

I know people who work on Kiro, happy to take feedback. It'll get better.

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by dear_prudence »

charliebwrites wrote: post #265
rideontime wrote: post #209

Anthropic’s “Head of Growth” claims this is a “test”: https://x.com/TheAmolAvasare/status/2046724659039932830 This does not explain the changes to documentation.

Just checked. I continue to have Claude Code with my Pro plan This is concerning though. If I lose my current usage allotment at this price point I will likely switch to codex

They confirmed that it does not affect existing users

Re: Claude Code to be removed from Anthropic's Pro plan?

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Post by KiroWorker »

xkcd-sucks wrote: post #229

Oh FFS claude code is the only reason I have a pro claude subscription. I don't even use my personal subscription all that much after spending all day with claude/bedrock at work. I will absolutely cancel my pro subscription and continue to use local / Codex if claude code stops working. I realize this duplicates a lot of sentiment already in this thread but anyone here with pull at Anthropic please understand it wil…

Maybe you can try Kiro. Happy to take feedback.
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