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Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Re: Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Post by red-iron-pine »

kaelwd wrote: post #439
toofy wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this is a great example of where the government should step in and say “welp, you took too long, we’re now funding municiple fiber and we’ll give it to everyone cheap. sorry.” i truly do believe competition can often drivr things forward but we have countless examples where executives get comfortable and decide their best course of action for profits is to do little to nothing. if a community has been screaming for f…

Australia did that but also paid out the telecom companies a gazillion dollars for infrastructure that had only been privatised like a decade earlier.

they voted a conservative government who did what conservative governments do.

what did people think abbot and turnbull were selling? wasn't better service for users, it was servicing telstra and murdoch.

Re: Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Post by red-iron-pine »

mikkupikku wrote: post #402
deaux wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does giving money to Verizon have to do with municipal (i.e. operated by the municipality) broadband?

Municipalities don't know anything about the job and few have the resources and personnel to become sufficiently experienced. I know every other poster on HN has a story where they personally stepped in and saw their local government through the process for incredibly cheap, hey that's great, but how is some random municipality without an elder tech god living with them supposed to get "municipal" internet without co…

lol he thinks big ISPs upgrade their infra or care.

Re: Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Post by justin66 »

thelastgallon wrote: post #170

Most states in America ban municipal fiber. They saw EPB (Chattanooga) and said, no, we must make sure that doesn't ever happen again. That is how 'free' market is done in US, all the rules are to make sure the richest people become richer.

> That is how 'free' market is done in US, all the rules are to make sure the richest people become richer.

In all fairness, we put an awful lot of effort into making the poor poorer as well.

Re: Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Post by phkahler »

Switzerland is 1/6 the size of Michigan and has 90 percent as many people as Michigan (9M vs 10M). With a higher population density I'd expect better rollout of things like internet service. And that's just ONE average size US state - there are 50, some of which are larger with even fewer people. It's not really a fair comparison regardless of which business or political factors are in play.

Re: Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Post by DonnyV »

This is a nice story and how it played out is great for Switzerland. But the ways listed on how to fix it, wouldn't work in the US. See companies in the US have already worked around what worked for Switzerland.

The different levels of governments in the US are corrupt. Sometimes from town all the way up to Federal. Actually its definitely completly corrupt at the Federal level. A politician or Judge has already been bought to make sure a case like the Swisscom lost. Would never happen here.

So before we have any progress in really any industry in the US. We need to desperately clean house with our politicians, attorney generals and judges.

Re: Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Post by crispyambulance »

Simple question that doesn't seem to be addressed by "speed tests".

Does 25Gbps matter? I mean, it's not like your online services are going to be "faster", right?

Is Netflix or any other web endpoint that normal people use going to be noticeably better because a household has 25Gbps rather than 1Gbps?

Doesn't this only matter for many simultaneous users of heavy web traffic?

Re: Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Post by abustamam »

crispyambulance wrote: post #497

Simple question that doesn't seem to be addressed by "speed tests". Does 25Gbps matter? I mean, it's not like your online services are going to be "faster", right? Is Netflix or any other web endpoint that normal people use going to be noticeably better because a household has 25Gbps rather than 1Gbps? Doesn't this only matter for many simultaneous users of heavy web traffic?

In most cases probably not. But the question isn't "who needs 25gbps" it's "why are we only limited to 1gbps if we're lucky in the US?"

Re: Why Switzerland has 25 Gbit internet and America doesn't

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Post by servo_sausage »

crispyambulance wrote: post #497

Simple question that doesn't seem to be addressed by "speed tests". Does 25Gbps matter? I mean, it's not like your online services are going to be "faster", right? Is Netflix or any other web endpoint that normal people use going to be noticeably better because a household has 25Gbps rather than 1Gbps? Doesn't this only matter for many simultaneous users of heavy web traffic?

In terms of what one person consumes, it would be rare to make full use of it.

I wonder if this speed was available everywhere, would more people self-host?

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