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People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by pjmlp »

grujicd wrote: post #12

This "make Windows better" push is far more political than technological. It's a fight with other divisions about using Windows as a marketing and sales channel for other products and services. It has to be a decision from the very top. I hope they realize that Windows is in significant danger, the majority market share for Desktop OS is not guaranteed anymore. It's not just 10% of revenue, it's a foundation for how…

Unless Apple decides to make computers for the remaining 80% of the less fortunate population (Neo isn't it), or OEMs decide to finally support GNU/Linux, Windows has many years to come, regardless of the pain points.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by fodkodrasz »

lobf wrote: post #367
fodkodrasz wrote: post #307

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I give you a well thought out macos shortcut for example. Ok, it is for a niche feature people rarely use... Screenshots, put straight to the clipboard. On windows you have 2 options, bot pretty unintuitive: 1. You can either press PrintScreen button... (OK boomer, who uses a full size keyboard? My RGB clicky-keys 57% keyboard doesn't even have backspace, return, escape or delete, I don't even know when I saw a keybo…

>Meanwhile on the intuitive MacOs to do this you only have to press Command+Option+Shift+4 It's command-shift-4, no option key involved.

afaik that way it pops up the viewer, and does not put it to the clipboard.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by pjmlp »

john_strinlai wrote: post #81
grujicd wrote: post #12

This "make Windows better" push is far more political than technological. It's a fight with other divisions about using Windows as a marketing and sales channel for other products and services. It has to be a decision from the very top. I hope they realize that Windows is in significant danger, the majority market share for Desktop OS is not guaranteed anymore. It's not just 10% of revenue, it's a foundation for how…

> I hope they realize that Windows is in significant danger, the majority market share for Desktop OS is not guaranteed anymore. i agree with most of what you said, but this is borderline fantasy. the majority of home market share is not guaranteed, sure. with how good gaming is on non-windows machines now, there isnt much for a home user to get locked-in with (except games that require windows-only malware i.e. anti…

Only if you mean gaming on PlayStation and Nintendo, or mobile devices.

Valve is dependent on Windows games market, and Apple mostly cares about iOS games.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by user34283 »

badpun wrote: post #226
varispeed wrote: post #155

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Don't forget the search that doesn't work. You have app "X" installed? You type X and it doesn't find it, but gives you irrelevant results about X.

One of the first things to do on a fresh install is to disable the Web search results in Start menu search. There's a setting in the registry to do it.

There's also a setting on the Settings app's Search page, which you can conveniently reach via the kebab menu on the search results.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by vardump »

nmstoker wrote: post #397

My "favourite" with this is the new Windows app (terrible new name for the remote desktop app). You now have to sign in to use the app but then as soon as you connect to any corporate resources (ie remote PCs/Cloud PCs), you have to sign in again! It seems like the perfect opportunity to SAVE the user some hassle but instead it's adding it.

That new Windows app didn’t even work for me at all. Could not connect a Windows 10 box for example.

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Post by ninjagoo »

Atlas26 wrote: post #454
sidkshatriya wrote: post #86

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Decline often happens slowly, gradually and then suddenly. Could anybody imagine Intel where it is now ? This could happen to Microsoft and is probably already happening as we speak.

> Could anybody imagine Intel where it is now ? This comment is multiple years out of date at this point…Lunar lake was considered an exceptionally successful Mobile processor platform that was extremely competitive with Apple M series chips, Panther lake is supposedly improving on that by an even greater degree, and Nova lake is supposedly an extremely promising upcoming desktop platform, and their Arc graphics are…

I do believe the OP's comparison was with AMD, not Apple. Intel has fallen into financial difficulties following product failures and AMD's strong competition, a far cry from Intel's heydays.

Apple barely comes into the picture, with less than 10% of the worldwide PC market, and was not a factor in Intel's decline.

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Post by pjmlp »

cyberax wrote: post #471
john_strinlai wrote: post #159

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> 20 years is way too large a minimum estimate. i disagree. unless intuit is also rewriting quickbooks, dassault systèmes is rewriting solidworks, every bank is rewriting their custom windows-only software, every government branch is rewriting their custom windows-only software, etc. and every company is willing to retrain 95% of their employees on a new operating system, have increased support requirements for a few…

> i disagree. unless intuit is also rewriting quickbooks, dassault systèmes is rewriting solidworks Autodesk Fusion runs in browser, and even SolidWorks has an online version. You were saying?... > every bank is rewriting their custom windows-only software This has been happening for a while, actually. Typically they rewrite software as webapps, with a microservice-based backend. > not even touching the capital requi…

> Autodesk Fusion runs in browser, and even SolidWorks has an online version. You were saying?..

Mostly used for visualisation, rather than real work, especially given the browser limitations.

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Post by randomNumber7 »

roenxi wrote: post #391
ctoth wrote: post #319

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All true, and yet: Windows accessibility actually works. I use a screen reader daily. Linux a11y is complete dogshit — AT-SPI2 is unreliable, Orca is barely maintained, Wayland broke what little existed. I need something that actually works. When Linux goes off and decides it'll rewrite its working desktop stack and it's still, ten years later, not useable? ADHD-Driven development might be fine if you can see your sy…

> When Linux goes off and decides it'll rewrite its working desktop stack and it's still, ten years later, not useable? In fairness it wasn't just the rewrite that was the problem, but it looks for all the world like there was a large faction in the Linux UI world around Wayland that believes accessibility is insecure and designed the new systems to make it impossible. It has been an interesting if unfortunate situat…

Why was gnome pushed so hard? In my eyes it looks horrible and I still prefer xfce...

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by pjmlp »

jon-wood wrote: post #97
john_strinlai wrote: post #88

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> gradually and then suddenly. governments, institutions, and large enterprises (like, thousands of people) do not have the power to do anything "suddenly". they have contracts, and cash flow concerns. you cannot suddenly replaces tens to hundreds of thousands of machines. 20-50 years down the road? maybe! they (microsoft) surely arent doing themselves many favors. but they are certainly not in "significant danger" t…

You can't suddenly replace them, but in a lot of cases you can find that over an extended period more and more people choose the MacBook option from IT rather than the Windows one.

Only in countries where the quality of life allows such decisions to take place.

Re: People inside Microsoft are fighting to drop mandatory Microsoft Account

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Post by pjmlp »

jon-wood wrote: post #216
john_strinlai wrote: post #104

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most people are not willing to learn an entire new operating system for no reason, though. this might happen in tech-based companies, sure, but banks? accounting firms? ive never seen them offer macbooks. this is also ignoring all of the critical software that is windows-only (e.g. quickbooks, solidworks, bespoke programs in banks and government). point is: microsoft is not in "significant danger" today.

An increasing number of people are coming into the workplace never having used a Windows machine, or only occasionally having done so when it was absolutely necessary.

Maybe in US and related high salary countries where the Apple tax isn't a problem.

Rest of the world, depends pretty much even if an half work second hand PC is an option.

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