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Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Re: Is anybody else bored of talking about AI?

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Post by tdeck »

xvector wrote: post #480
catlifeonmars wrote: post #477

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source?

> The rapid urbanisation that accompanied the Industrial Revolution in Britain is often argued to have been accompanied by a dramatic worsening of urban conditions [...] However, demographic evidence suggests that death rates were much higher in towns in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries than in the nineteenth century, and that the Industrial Revolution was accompanied by profound improvements in the survival…

Don't all the references to "in towns" imply that these people weren't working the fields?

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Post by tdeck »

chatmasta wrote: post #103

What I miss is people showing off their hand-crafted libraries or frameworks. That’s become way less common now that everyone is building a layer up the stack. I fear we’ll be stuck in a permanent state of using Tailwind and React and all the LLM-favored libraries as they were frozen in time at the beginning of 2025. Then again, that’ll be the agent’s problem, not mine… All that said, it’s extremely exciting. I’ve be…

> I fear we’ll be stuck in a permanent state of using Tailwind and React and all the LLM-favored libraries as they were frozen in time at the beginning of 2025.

Would it be such a bad thing if the "right way" to build a JavaScript frontend didn't change so much every year?

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Post by kode-targz »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #397
chatmasta wrote: post #103

What I miss is people showing off their hand-crafted libraries or frameworks. That’s become way less common now that everyone is building a layer up the stack. I fear we’ll be stuck in a permanent state of using Tailwind and React and all the LLM-favored libraries as they were frozen in time at the beginning of 2025. Then again, that’ll be the agent’s problem, not mine… All that said, it’s extremely exciting. I’ve be…

Maybe it's like how we're all still using languages from pre-2010? Python, JS, Java, C++, Go, Rust (most of those are 20th century). Once you move a layer up the stack it takes some extraordinary situation to upend the status quo.

because there isn't really that much to change that high up the stack. It's all the same. True innovation happens at the low levels of programming and hardware.

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Post by steve-atx-7600 »

“But they were all using basically the same hammer in the same way, so they were just screaming the same shit at each other at the top of their voices.” I don’t see it this way. I think we’re watching the nature of software engineering change permanently and profoundly in the span of months. Claude code 2026 and later means most engineers will no longer write most of their code. The nature of the work still includes design, but now requires dedication to figuring out how to break down work onto Claude instances and do so in an easily verifiable way.

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Post by rogix »

Is it a requirement to never write an article about AI without explicitly saying how “amazing”, “extraordinary” or “breathtaking” it is before saying anything else? It is like asking for forgiveness before the blasphemy. Forgive me, God, I know how incredible you are, but why do you need us talking about you all the time? How long until we start talking about AI for what it is, a normal technology, without the risk of being condemned for heresy?

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Post by randusername »

_doctor_love wrote: post #153

This might sound like snark, but I truly don’t mean it that way. I think what’s interesting about AI, and why there’s so much conversation, is that in order to be a good user of AI, you have to really understand software development. All the people I work with who are getting the most value out of using AI to deliver software are people who are already very high-skilled engineers, and the more years of real experienc…

> Consequently, this is why so many software engineers are having an identity crisis: they’ve spent most of their career focusing on one very small section of the overall SDLC, meanwhile believing that was mostly all there was that they needed to know.

Specialists/generalists, top-down/bottom-up, BFS/DFS, pragmatists/idealists, ADHD/ASD; lots of continuums in software work and those at either extreme have biases.

Personally I think that there will be less programmers needed and the ones that will remain will have had to mellow out towards the center in all these continuums. We won't be able to rely on big teams balancing each other out.

Generalists will need to learn which details matter. Specialists will need to learn the delegation and risk tolerance usually reserved for the bemoaned management track. Hard to say which is the easier journey.

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Post by guywithahat »

jimjimjim wrote: post #67
guywithahat wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if this is a joke but the field is advancing so dramatically it's hard to stop talking about it. Every week at work I have to show a new AI feature to an executive, about how we can now write 1000's of lines of codes in minutes at a higher quality than the greatest engineers. This necessitates new tools and new purchases, as well as team and org shifts. If you're reading this and your life hasn't been th…

"higher quality than the greatest engineers". right... and why do so many articles or comments have a general approach of 'It's great and if you don't think it is it's because you don't understand it.'

Because it's a tool which must be used properly. I've encountered senior engineers who, while great on their own complain that AI isn't good at code gen. When I talk to them about it they're using terrible free models and not putting in effort to understand how LLM's work. Agents can now write thousands of lines of code across large codebases following specs closely on levels that are simply impossible for teams of humans to do.

Humans simply cannot code as well as an LLM/Agent in most cases. It's like fighting a bear, and if you think you can beat an adult brown bear you're probably wrong.

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Post by overgard »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #233
overgard wrote: post #89

I'm like 99% convinced that most of the AI conversation upvotes at this point is astroturfing. I just don't see the correlation with the sentiment I get from talking to people in the real world (mostly negative AI sentiment) vs what I see here

I think some companies are just behind the curve, so this sentiment seems bizarre to some. At my big tech, AI is every conversation with everyone, every day. Becoming AI native is a huge deal for us. Literally everyone is making AI usage a core part of their job and it's been a big productivity accelerator. Perhaps it's different where you work, so you don't see the sentiment.

"AI native". I don't know if you intend it but you sound like a linked in lunatic, nobody talks like that

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Post by tim333 »

delbronski wrote: post #172

AI is starting to look like a net negative for humanity. I remember the early days of OpenAI. I was super excited about it. There was a new space to uncover and learn about. I was hopeful. Now I have this love/hate relationship with it. Claude Code is amazing. I use it everyday because it makes me so much more efficient at my job. But I also know that by using it I’m contributing to making my job redundant one day. A…

>Does anybody really buy the BS that this will all make the world a better place one day?

Yeah - I think there's a lot of cool sci-fi like stuff in the future.

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