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Re: Migrating to the EU

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I would add Hetzner for hosting. German based, solid in my experience with virtual servers.

In Germany, netcup ( https://www.netcup.com/ ) is also quite popular among customers who are - small or midsize companies, or - "hacker-minded people" (I know quite some "hacker-minded people" who rent a server or vServer at netcup), since they offer quite a bit of value for the money. In opposite to Hetzner, netcup is more of an inside tip.

Also https://uberspace.de/en/

Re: Migrating to the EU

#493
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How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? Some EU courts will not exclude illegally obtained evidence either, so challenging the warrant later on will be pointless. Oh, and you might be in a reasonable EU country and still be hit with an EIO from one of the unreasonable countr…

How comfortable are you guys with the fact the US has just partnered with OpenAI to enable mass surveillance?

Re: Migrating to the EU

#494
post #18

How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? Some EU courts will not exclude illegally obtained evidence either, so challenging the warrant later on will be pointless. Oh, and you might be in a reasonable EU country and still be hit with an EIO from one of the unreasonable countr…

I'd say don't let perfect be the enemy of good/better. Moving from US to EU is a move for the better. But EU isn't perfect, and there might be even better options available, but unless you have them, I'd recommend starting with the move to EU.

Re: Migrating to the EU

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The EU is not a privacy and human rights panacea, as shown by the continuing efforts to impose Chat Control. Switzerland is no better. Then again one of my wife’s friends is high up in the Canadian policy establishment and some of her positions on surveillance and political control over social media were chilling, and I assume widespread among the Five Eyes. Certainly the UK and Australia have deeply authoritarian po…

Yup, I don't get someone who would look at the US and say that their government overreach is particularly bad compared to the rest of the "first world". For example, the UK is arresting people for getting too spicy in school Facebook groups[1]. It just feels like "grass is greener" mentality because folks on here are most familiar with US political issues.

[1] https://www.thetimes.com/uk/education/article/police-arrest-...

Re: Migrating to the EU

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post #462

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but you should really read the links: "On 5 April 2018, the Oberlandesgericht (Higher State Court) in the German state of Schleswig-Holstein ruled that Puigdemont would not be extradited on charges of rebellion, and released him on bail while deliberating about the extradition on charges of misuse of public funds." So, exactly as I wrote: The rebellion charge did not make sense to the court, so no extradition…

>Sorry, but you should really read the links: That's rather rude of you, I did in fact read the entire text of the link. I hate citing wikipedia, but if you'll skip forward a few lines, you'll find this nugget: "On 12 July 2018 the higher court in Schleswig-Holstein confirmed that Puigdemont could not be extradited by the crime of rebellion, but may still be extradited based on charges of misuse of public funds" Puig…

It was not rude but a reasonable assumption. Let's revisit what we discussed:

>>Usually LE in European countries will not respect warrants from another country if it does not make sense in the local jurisdiction as well.

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>This is incorrect and goes explicitly against the intent of the relevant frameworks.

But in the link you could clearly see that the court dismissed the EAW on charges of rebellion. If Spain had only issued the EAW based on this charge, or if Spain had issued two separate EAW for the separate charges, this is clearly showing what I was claiming.

What you have cited only confirms what I was writing earlier - if it makes sense to the court they might follow-up with the EAW. I am not sure at all, though, how you come to the conclusion that Puigdemont "almost certainly" would have ended up extradited. It is not given that the court would have found the charges valid and there are all legal means available to challenge the court's decision.

But even if he had been extradited due to the charges of misusing public funds, whatever is wrong with that? There are extradition treaties between many countries and that would be an absolutely valid case for extradition, if the charges make sense in the local jurisdiction. Should every criminal be safe as soon as they are crossing a border?

The important thing is that a court is checking the charges and that there is legal recourse, before any extradition.

So, in summary I feel not threatened at all by the existence of those instruments in the EU and you failed to make me understand why I should. The chance of an abuse of power or unjust persecution in any single country (EU or not) is so much larger than a scenario where this happens in two countries at the same time.

However, this is a bit exhausting, so I am done with this discussion.

Re: Migrating to the EU

#497
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, same here. I tried some EU providers like Mailbox, Tuta and Uberspace. In the end, even though Fastmail is not EU-based, at least it's based in Australia (and not US) and they have a solid track record as a company to make the right decisions and not chase every hype. So, this is good enough for me. For now.

Australia is a member of five eyes and the US basically treats them like the 51st state.

Heyyy! I thought Canada was the 51st state!? Get in line Aussies!

Re: Migrating to the EU

#498
Shameless plug: if you think about switching from Google Analytics/Hotjar, check out my project[0] (built in EU, started in Romania, now working on it remotely in Netherlands).

If not, happy to hear any criticism or the alternatives you decided to go with instead.

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Re: Migrating to the EU

#499

As a Canadian, I’ve been thinking since last year about migrating to non-US services and applications. My main goal is simply to avoid giving money or data directly to US corporations. I have no illusions, these non-US services probably still benefit US companies in some ways. They’re rare, but I’ve consciously decided to stay away from some Canadian alternatives. The main customers of most Canadian tech companies ar…

For email I have been quite pleased with RunBox (Norway)

Re: Migrating to the EU

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post #18

How comfortable are you guys with the fact that EU countries allow prosecutors and sometimes even police officers to issue their own search warrants without meaningful judicial review? Some EU courts will not exclude illegally obtained evidence either, so challenging the warrant later on will be pointless. Oh, and you might be in a reasonable EU country and still be hit with an EIO from one of the unreasonable countr…

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