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Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

hormuz.pythonic.ninja

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Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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"Negotiators!?" They were torturing children and using the videos for ransom. Did you just not know that or you would still call that negotiating?

Ali Shamkhani Are you talking about Hamas?

If the US re-named its assault force in Iran "Helping Hands Aid Group" would you say it's not the US?

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#492

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Ali Shamkhani Are you talking about Hamas?

If the US re-named its assault force in Iran "Helping Hands Aid Group" would you say it's not the US?

You're not making any sense.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#493

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If the US re-named its assault force in Iran "Helping Hands Aid Group" would you say it's not the US?

You're not making any sense.

Ali Shamkhani, just based on his Wikipedia page, openly stated on several occasions that he intended to build nukes and that he regretted not building them and nuking Israel and the US in the 90s.

He was also a high ranking military leader in Iran, which implies that he commanded, or maybe organized, but at the very least funded terror in Gaza, Israel, the US, Australia, France, etc.

I don't see that as a negotiator any more than the assassins who finally killed him were negotiators.

And yes, I was talking about Hamas, Hezbollah, and other Islamic Revolution export efforts stemming from the Islamic Republic government in Iran.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#494
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Iran (govt) is not Iranian. They are occupied. And yes. From your same source (Israeli news) for added effect. https://www.thejewishstar.com/stories/palestinian-tradition-... Thousands more similar articles. This is not a new tradition. Decades of this same behavior everywhere that Iran operates terror orgs.

I shared articles of Israelis celebrating deaths of Palestinian civilians, and you shared an article of Palestinians celebrating Israeli deaths. I asked for proof of your claim that Iranis celebrated civilian deaths and you still have not shown that. Additionally your statement: “ Iran (govt) is not Iranian. They are occupied.” betrays a basic ignorance of Iran. Irans government is comprised entirely of Iranians. Las…

Getting angry didn't seem to help you here. If you want to discuss the topic respectfully, I'm open to continue, and I'll explain what you've missed from the article.

First, you'll need to apologize as a show of good faith.

I did provide you with proof, and I can help you to see it. But I don't get from your angry tone that you want proof. It looks to me more like you want to shut down proof before it changes your mind.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

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I think the military planners sat in the Pentagon and thought "Hey if we hit this school and kill all these children, that will achieve us X. Shall we do it?" And then they decided to do it. Yes, that's what I think.

Surely nothing to do with the missile launcher next to it, right?

So you do conceed that someone at the pentagon intentionally decided "we'll kill al these children but that's worth it in order to achieve X". You've just made my point for me.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#497

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You're not making any sense.

Ali Shamkhani, just based on his Wikipedia page, openly stated on several occasions that he intended to build nukes and that he regretted not building them and nuking Israel and the US in the 90s. He was also a high ranking military leader in Iran, which implies that he commanded, or maybe organized, but at the very least funded terror in Gaza, Israel, the US, Australia, France, etc. I don't see that as a negotiator…

You'd be surprised if you knew what many American leaders and generals thought about using nukes.

Whatever you say is besides the point, there's plenty of war crimes and terrorism to go around on both sides. Israel kills negotiators during an active negotiation. They have no interest in solving this other than Iran becoming a failed state. They are manufacturing this situation, its been the goal of Netanyahu for 4 decades, and he was there in congress to lie about WMDs when Iraq was attacked.

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#498

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I agree with you, but i want to also ask, have you heard what the ayatollah and the mullahs have said about killing Americans, dismembering protestors, raping children, nuking the United States. Have you heard the protestors mowed down by machine guns, have you heard they make you buy the body of your loved ones for the cost of the bullet, assigning that value to their life, have you heard that they literally living…

Have you heard what people like Ben-Gvir say?

Yeah, he sucks too.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#499

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> But to truly and fully understand this[,] people need to put a real effort and research the region. The US defense apparatus has been doing just this for quite some time. And netunyahoo has been saying Iran is 'weeks away' from having nukes for 30 years, now. Opinion? israel has some real juicy stuff on trump, and he's doing his best to not get the information released by doing netun's bidding. I am thoroughly appa…

I think it’s less blackmail and more the Israeli government has learned it can simply act and expect the US to back them up to save face. Rubio admitted as much with his initial statements after we attacked Iran. Netanyahu can currently reliably expect the US military to back up its foreign policy with or without buy in ahead of time.

This might be true but the current conflict was a long planned joint operation. Centcom was not just prompted to join in, but was the lead plan maker and execution of the attack was entirely in sync with Israel.

Re: Hormuz Minesweeper – Are you tired of winning?

#500

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I think it’s less blackmail and more the Israeli government has learned it can simply act and expect the US to back them up to save face. Rubio admitted as much with his initial statements after we attacked Iran. Netanyahu can currently reliably expect the US military to back up its foreign policy with or without buy in ahead of time.

This might be true but the current conflict was a long planned joint operation. Centcom was not just prompted to join in, but was the lead plan maker and execution of the attack was entirely in sync with Israel.

I do not think it was as coordinated with US leadership as that statement implies even if they had discussed it prior. Rubio’s initial statement was very telling. Now Trump says it was all Hegseth’s idea, so the story isn’t even consistent now.
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