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Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by hedora »

layer8 wrote: post #223
hedora wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, the mini had worse cameras than the larger screens. Camera quality is the second most important thing to me (after not needing finger enhancement surgery to hold the phone). So, they designed it to fail, and it still was 3-5% of sales vs. ones that actually got good spec bumps every year. (If you’re upgrading the phone every 12 months, why buy the one with cameras a few years behind the curve?) Anyway, I like m…

You are misremembering. There was no issue with the cameras on the mini, unless you expected a Pro mini for some reason.

Ah true. It came down to Pro vs. Mini for me because I usually just buy the best iPhone without regard to price. (I don't care about spending an extra $200 for a device I'll use for 4-5 years, but Apple's cheapest phones were also the best back then.)

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by ysnp »

butz wrote: post #480
coldpie wrote: post #467

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So... there is a 4" Android phone out there. It's widely available, and from a major manufacturer. It's very usable, and it runs mostly stock Android. I have it, and I like it very much. Brace yourself for the reveal because you're not going to like it. It's a foldable. It's the Motorola Razr+ or Razr Ultra (I have the 2025 Ultra). The outer screen is 4" and you can use it for almost everything you want to do. I use…

How likely, that Motorola Razr will run GrapheneOS?

The partnership is for future devices, rather than existing devices.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by bestham »

dijit wrote: post #403
carefree-bob wrote: post #365

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I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…

Many people used low iPhone mini sales to point at the idea that small phones aren't popular anymore. They might be right, but the "Mini" was more like a return to the size of the 6 & 8; not the same size as the 5 or prior SE. So for me it was still too large. https://imgur.com/a/iphone-mini-vs-iphone-5-vs-iphone-6-case... The "usable screen" is where my thumb can reach, not whatever idea people have in their heads a…

I recently switched from an iPhone 16 to an Air and my experience is the opposite. I type way more accurate on the Air (even when both dictionaries are reset and have no screen protector what could make the touch less sensitive). I do not know why.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by parl_match »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #221
parl_match wrote: post #216

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> I have my phone with me all of the time and it has an always on connection That's a bug, not a feature. You don't need to be able to do every task all the time. In fact, it's nice to be able to separate that aspect.

Yes I can just print out directions on Mapquest before I leave home, tell people to page me and I will call them back from the nearest pay phone, carry around my Walkman and my Polaroid camera with me. Have you ever thought that with 80% of web traffic coming from mobile, you might be the outlier? What next? The old Slashdot meme “I haven’t watched TV in 20 years. Do people still watch TV?”

What a ridiculous exaggeration.

I said you don't have to do every task, not do no tasks.

> Have you ever thought that with 80% of web traffic coming from mobile, you might be the outlier?

Wow, snark too. In recent years, I've taken a much more luddite stance against mobile device usage for my own mental wellbeing. Maybe other people should follow suit.

"You should do your taxes on the train". No, I don't think that I will. You're free to stress yourself out like that. Have fun.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by prerok »

brookst wrote: post #457
carefree-bob wrote: post #365

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I want to +1 every comment in this thread. Phones are too big now. I don't understand Apple's weird obsessions, first trying to make all the phone so thin you cut your hand holding it, and then making it too big to fit comfortably in your pocket unless you are walking around in camo pants. You know what I would like? When I tap on the search and type the first few letters of an app on my phone, and the app appears, a…

Apple follows the market. There just aren’t many people who want small phones, HN notwithstanding. If they sold like hotcakes they’d have a full lineup. And I kind of get it. Philosophically I want a small phone. Realities of age and eyesight forbid. The market is basically people who don’t read or watch videos on their phone, and who have excellent eyesight, and who don’t care about having the best cameras. 100% leg…

I don't agree with this. In my view, there are plenty of cases where the product changes are shoved down our throats.

I think the problem is that the product folks don't actually listen to the market. They read Jobs' biography and are convinced that they will tell their users what product they will like and that they will see the light later on.

The sad reality is: they are not Jobs (and even he was not faultless). So, we get Mac like Windows interfaces, we get mail clients losing features, we get AI in every single app you see, etc.

Just my 2c.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by woadwarrior01 »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #151
thoughtpalette wrote: post #8

Still holding onto my 13 mini. Dreaming of another small form factor release one of these announcements.. :'}

I’m exactly there with you with my 13 mini and I did realize that it’s not gonna last as we really get into the era of local LLMs Running deepseek 6B on the Private LLM app on the iPhone 13 basically set my phone on fire

> Running deepseek 6B on the Private LLM app on the iPhone 13 basically set my phone on fire

Hey, I’m the author of Private LLM. I hope you’re joking about the phone catching fire. Btw, there’s no DeepSeek 6B model, you’re likely talking about the DeepSeek Distill 7B model.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by williamsss »

coldpie wrote: post #467
alabhyajindal wrote: post #419

I wonder if the Small Android Phone project has moved forward since the last time it was posted here: https://smallandroidphone.com

So... there is a 4" Android phone out there. It's widely available, and from a major manufacturer. It's very usable, and it runs mostly stock Android. I have it, and I like it very much. Brace yourself for the reveal because you're not going to like it. It's a foldable. It's the Motorola Razr+ or Razr Ultra (I have the 2025 Ultra). The outer screen is 4" and you can use it for almost everything you want to do. I use…

The weight is an issue for me at 189g. I've been looking for something compact, light weight, secure with a decent OS for 2 years without luck.

Iphone air is tempting at 165g if the screen was smaller. Unihertz Titan 2 Elite may hit the sweet spot if the weight is kept low.

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

woadwarrior01 wrote: post #496
AndrewKemendo wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m exactly there with you with my 13 mini and I did realize that it’s not gonna last as we really get into the era of local LLMs Running deepseek 6B on the Private LLM app on the iPhone 13 basically set my phone on fire

> Running deepseek 6B on the Private LLM app on the iPhone 13 basically set my phone on fire Hey, I’m the author of Private LLM. I hope you’re joking about the phone catching fire. Btw, there’s no DeepSeek 6B model, you’re likely talking about the DeepSeek Distill 7B model.

Yes thank you for the correct correction

The last model I tried to run was Dolphin 3B but even Zephyr1.6B kills the phone pretty fast even with a full battery

Even Dolphin completely killed my phone so yeah I can’t really use the Private LLM app for anything heavier than the default 1.6B

Re: iPhone 17e

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

parl_match wrote: post #494
raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I can just print out directions on Mapquest before I leave home, tell people to page me and I will call them back from the nearest pay phone, carry around my Walkman and my Polaroid camera with me. Have you ever thought that with 80% of web traffic coming from mobile, you might be the outlier? What next? The old Slashdot meme “I haven’t watched TV in 20 years. Do people still watch TV?”

What a ridiculous exaggeration. I said you don't have to do every task, not do no tasks. > Have you ever thought that with 80% of web traffic coming from mobile, you might be the outlier? Wow, snark too. In recent years, I've taken a much more luddite stance against mobile device usage for my own mental wellbeing. Maybe other people should follow suit. "You should do your taxes on the train". No, I don't think that I…

So park_match is the arbiter of what tasks should and should not be done on your phone?

> You should do your taxes on the train". No, I don't think that I will. You're free to stress yourself out like that. Have fun.

I along with 90% of the taxpayers in the US take the standard deduction - meaning my taxes are stupid simple.

I logged into the TurboTax app, it offered to download my w2’s, I answered five questions, entered the date that I wanted IRS to take out the taxes we owed and we were done. I don’t have to even file state taxes for the state I live in?

How would that have been easier from a computer? In fact it would have been harder if I had to use a computer because the other option I had to submit my W2 was to take a picture of it.

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