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Post by kstrauser »

rstuart4133 wrote: post #482
natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

> During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. Nowadays phones, tablets and game boxes are the consumer products. Currently they outnumber consumer windows desktops by about 6 or 7 to 1 [0]. 5 years ago, it was about 3.5 to 1. Microsoft doesn't seem to have much control over this. They are executing a pivot in response. [0] https://learn…

> Mac OS X's market share in the US climbed from 12.17% in December 2022 to 22.08% in May 2023. The market share was consistent for the next few months until it dropped to 14.03% in December 2023.

What. MacOS doubled from December to the next may, then cut in half by the next December? I’m skeptical. It also talks about approval ratings for OS X Lion, from 14 years ago. I think that site is powered by a set of dice.

I think your overall point is correct, but I’m doubting that reference as an accurate data source.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by matheusmoreira »

JohnMakin wrote: post #433

Classic Streisand effect - I had never, and probably would have never encountered this term, and now I have, and I am incorporating it into my vocabulary. Why listen to user feedback when you can do stuff like this? Way too funny.

I too will incorporate Microslop into my vocabulary.

Not even a week ago I was posting here on HN about Microslop's new calculator which somehow takes 17 seconds to fully open on my work machine while the old notepad program opens instantly. How is it even possible to produce slop this bad? Best part of it is the fact it's open source: if you complain about it some 200kUSD/year Microslop employee will come and tell you to open a pull request.

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

aleph_minus_one wrote: post #455
natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

> According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. > Her perspective was that consumer-facing products are not the primary revenue drivers and, therefore, are not central to executive priorities. This does not explain why Microsoft then does not consider the consumer products as "stable (somewhat 'legacy') platfor…

If Windows 2000 still had security updates and modern hardware support, I'd sure as heck still be using it. Every version since has been a regression.

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Post by iknowstuff »

permo-w wrote: post #478
razorfen wrote: post #440

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their new appointment of leader for their Xbox group suggests that they intend to wind down that business unit in time. The founder of the Xbox team has commented that he believes it’s the beginning of the end for Xbox, for the exact reasons of this thread.

Which is odd because the major reason Xbox is petering out is because it's been completely mismanaged. Sony and Nintendo are still doing just fine. Nintendo even had a dodgy console that no one bought within relatively recent memory. Xbox messed up with the One and then have just failed to get back on track. It's not like the industry is dying.

Sony’s best selling console is still the PS2. They make more profit per console these days but the market doesn’t seem all that healthy.

I think Microsoft will just allow strong DRM to prevent cheats/piracy in PCs instead of dedicated xboxes.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by atoav »

Aeolun wrote: post #468
glaslong wrote: post #446

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm always astounded by the tendency to bet it all on core competencies and wind down every other effort that's profitable but not profitable _enough _ As if times don't change, innovation never happens, and your accessory plays of today are never the overtaking market of tomorrow.

It’s basically management 101. But I’ve gone through that phase and come out the other end believing that outsourcing any of the functions that aren’t commodified enough to switch at a moment’s notice is a terrible idea.

It is managment 101 to identify what makes you unique and sell that down the drain for the thing that currently makes you the most money?

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Post by solid_fuel »

natas wrote: post #383

I recently had dinner in Bellevue with an individual who holds a relatively senior position within Microsoft’s executive leadership. During our conversation, she emphasized repeatedly that Microsoft does not primarily view its offerings as consumer products. According to her, the company’s leadership is strongly focused on B2B strategy, with revenue growth driven mainly by Azure, AI, and enterprise solutions. Her per…

> That said, this business model has historically proven effective for companies such as IBM.

It is until it isn't, but I think this is the same trap as not training up junior engineers. The consumer market is often where future engineers and professionals first interact with technology, being exposed to Windows early and being able to use it at school and at home have always been major drivers of adoption at work.

Linux is another perfect example - devs who wanted a unix-ish system landed on it early in their own work and education (partly due to the BSD licensing stuff too) - and over time it became one of the most commonly used server operating systems.

I think this is Microsoft optimizing for predictable growth, just like everyone else is doing right now, but this is shortsighted and ultimately a defensive posture, not one suited for the future.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by 3eb7988a1663 »

miriam_catira wrote: post #222
mghackerlady wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The copilot button isn't even a "button" in a traditional sense, it just maps to win+shift+f23

I wish. I got a Dell laptop for work and they've replaced the right Ctrl key with a Copilot key, and (because it's a locked-down work sysyem) the only thing I can remap that to is the Windows menu. And I keep hitting it out of muscle memory, interrupting everything. But at least now it doesn't launch Copilot. Which I could add is "the only AI approved for use by IT" because they hate us.

Double check if the (hopefully not locked) BIOS gives an option to customize the CTRL key. I had a previous work laptop which also got cute with the CTRL button, but thankfully did let you remap it.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by avhception »

Izikiel43 wrote: post #338
creaturemachine wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the new .NET

That wasn't so bad compared to Xbox, I still don't know which Xbox is the latest one.

Oh wow yes, completely forgot about that one. To me, it's a complete blur made from single words and letters, one series x s one box 360? Maybe they should create a 365, with MS office pre-installed. Or something.

Compare that to Playstation: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

Re: “Microslop” filtered in the official Microsoft Copilot Discord server

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Post by cirelli94 »

ralferoo wrote: post #20

Hehe, this reminds me of 30 years ago when people used to stylise it as Micro$oft or creatively misspell it as Microshaft, etc. Even on the Amiga, there was the filesystem that could read PC format disks that was called MessyDos. It just seems like the next generation has discovered what an easy name it is to make puns from.

As an italian, I like Winzoz, a fusion between Windows and "zozzeria", filth.
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