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New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

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Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#492

Prior to the rise of LLM-written posts and the natural reaction of hair-trigger suspicion, I used to em and en dash fairly often in posts on HN. No reason really other than being a bit of a typography geek who happens to have always used dashes in casual writing instead of semicolons. So when I was setting up a modifier-key keyboard layer with AHK many years ago I put the em dash on modifier+dash just because I could…

ChatGPT evolves, everything grows. In AI speech, tells abound. Comma, emphasis. A new way, a better way.

> Comma, emphasis.

> A new way, a better way.

The autumn winds blow.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#493

Prior to the rise of LLM-written posts and the natural reaction of hair-trigger suspicion, I used to em and en dash fairly often in posts on HN. No reason really other than being a bit of a typography geek who happens to have always used dashes in casual writing instead of semicolons. So when I was setting up a modifier-key keyboard layer with AHK many years ago I put the em dash on modifier+dash just because I could…

My teenager recently asked me why I write like a chatbot, apparently unaware that some human beings prefer to write in complete sentences with attention to details like spelling, punctuation, grammar, and capitalization, and that LLMs were trained on this sort of writing. This makes me think of the fad where people on youtube will hold a microphone up in frame, because it somehow connotes authenticity. I'm sure some…

If you are using a dynamic microphone, most of the time it will be in frame because best distance is around 7cm from your mouth.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#494

Prior to the rise of LLM-written posts and the natural reaction of hair-trigger suspicion, I used to em and en dash fairly often in posts on HN. No reason really other than being a bit of a typography geek who happens to have always used dashes in casual writing instead of semicolons. So when I was setting up a modifier-key keyboard layer with AHK many years ago I put the em dash on modifier+dash just because I could…

My teenager recently asked me why I write like a chatbot, apparently unaware that some human beings prefer to write in complete sentences with attention to details like spelling, punctuation, grammar, and capitalization, and that LLMs were trained on this sort of writing. This makes me think of the fad where people on youtube will hold a microphone up in frame, because it somehow connotes authenticity. I'm sure some…

Idiocracy called this "talking like a fag".

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#498
post #472
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think we’re on the precipice of this being a requirement to have any faith you’re talking to another human. Except that it doesn't prove you're talking to a human - it just increases the hurdles for bot operators (buy or steal verified accounts).

It adds enough of a barrier to be worth it. In the way I have implemented it, you can only have one account per ID (for example passport). Yes, you can buy fake passports, but it's prohibitively expensive. Read my blog post for more info.

This is not a technical issue - it's a societal one. Do we want online ID verification? Are the trade-offs worth it? Do we want to make the internet a place that requires an ID everywhere for age verification or to prove that you're human? What would the implications be?

Regarding your implementation: Most people don't have a passport, so it's a non-starter - but again, this topic is not a technical issue.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#499
post #307

Most people want to avoid looking like AI, ut what if you want to blend in with the robot uprising. I present ⸻ the U+2E3B dash.

Does this comment break HN for anyone else? I can press "next" on any other post, but not this one. And in the next post, pressing "prev" does not scroll to this one. It does nothing. Prev works fine when pressed on this (or any other) post

Works fine for me in Firefox.

Re: New accounts on HN more likely to use em-dashes

#500

Downstream of this I used to cycle my accounts pretty regularly but have stopped since generative AI. Don't want people thinking I'm an LLM spam bot. My stupid comments are entirely my own.

I cycle accounts on here too (probably time to end this one, now that you mention it) but I don't plan on stopping. I refuse to build a long term identity on a platform that refuses to let me delete old comments if I want to (HN's policy). Too much liability for doxing etc
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