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X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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> Prosecutors say they are now investigating whether X has broken the law across multiple areas. This step could come before a police raid. This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers.

They've already broken the law by creating and hosting CSAM. Now let's see what else prosecutors will find.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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I remember encountering questionable hentai material (by accident) back in the Twitter days. But back then twitter was a leftist darling

Define leftist for back in the twitter days? I used twitter early in release. Don’t recall it being a faction specific platform.

I think they're using it in the American sense, which means "anywhere in the political spectrum of the leftmost 60% of the population".

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Did you miss the numerous news reports? Example: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/08/ai-chatbo... For obvious reasons, decent people are not about to go out and try to general child sexual abuse material to prove a point to you, if that’s what you’re asking for.

First of all, the Guardian is known to be heavily biased again Musk. They always try hard to make everything about him sound as negative as possible. Second, last time I tried, Grok even refused to create pictures of naked adults. I just tried again and this is still the case: https://x.com/i/grok/share/1cd2a181583f473f811c0d58996232ab The claim that they released a tool with "seemingly no guardrailes" is therefore c…

> First of all, the Guardian is known to be heavily biased again Musk.

Says who? Musk?

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Did you miss the numerous news reports? Example: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/08/ai-chatbo... For obvious reasons, decent people are not about to go out and try to general child sexual abuse material to prove a point to you, if that’s what you’re asking for.

First of all, the Guardian is known to be heavily biased again Musk. They always try hard to make everything about him sound as negative as possible. Second, last time I tried, Grok even refused to create pictures of naked adults. I just tried again and this is still the case: https://x.com/i/grok/share/1cd2a181583f473f811c0d58996232ab The claim that they released a tool with "seemingly no guardrailes" is therefore c…

That is only "known" to intellectually dishonest ideologues.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Elon's in the files asking Epstein about "wild parties" and then doesn't seem to care about all this. Easy to draw a conclusion here.

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As far as I can tell from the reporting:

* They exchanged various emails between 2012 and 2014 about Elon visiting the island

* They made plans for Elon to visit the island

* We don't know if Elon actually followed through on those plans and he denies it

I think it's premature to say he didn't go, and the latest batches of emails directly contradict the claim he wasn't ever invited.

See https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/30/epstein-files-show-elon-musk...

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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Lmao they literally made a broad accessible CSAM maker.

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Cars have uses and aren't primarily used or build,to kill babies. So what's a viable use for CSAM in your opinion?

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Car manufacturers are required to add features to make it less likely that cars kill babies. What would happen if Volvo made a special baby-killing model with extra spikes?

Tesla did, the main reason, why there are no Cybertrucks in europe. They are not allowed, because they are to dangerous.

Comparing Apples and Oranges. Defending this company is becoming cringe and ridiculous. X effed up, and Musk did it on purpose. He uses CSAM to strongman the boundaries of the law. That's not worth defending unless you also say eff the rule of law.

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Car manufacturers are required to add features to make it less likely that cars kill babies. What would happen if Volvo made a special baby-killing model with extra spikes?

The US would spend 20 years arguing about which agency's jurisdiction it was, and ignore the dead babies?

No, wait, Volvo is European. They'd impose a 300% tariff and direct anyone who wanted a baby-killing model car to buy one from US manufacturers instead.

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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> Prosecutors say they are now investigating whether X has broken the law across multiple areas. This step could come before a police raid. This looks like plain political pressure. No lives were saved, and no crime was prevented by harassing local workers.

Well, there is evidence that this company made and distributed CSAM and pornographic deepfakes to make a profit. There is no evidence lacking there for the investigators.

So the question becomes if it was done knowingly or recklessly, hence a police raid for evidence.

See also [0] for a legal discussion in the German context.

[0] https://arxiv.org/html/2601.03788v1

Re: X offices raided in France as UK opens fresh investigation into Grok

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It's not really different from how we treat any other platform that can host CSAM. I guess the main difference is that it's being "made" instead of simply "distributed" here

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Those images are generated from a training set, and it is already well known and reported that those training sets contain _real_ CSAM, real violence, real abuse. That "generated" face of a child is based on real images of real children.
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