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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by sebazzz »

bandrami wrote: post #480
kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

Can somebody give me a TLDR on what the "copilot button" does? I've never had one of those laptops and have never understood that. Does it just start the AI front-end? Does it power up the NPU?

It is just a button. Default it starts the Copilot app which is really the Office app that already existed but now with the copilot tab preselected. Also that Copilot runs in the cloud and doesn't use your NPU.

The only thing until now I've found using the NPU are the built in blur, auto frame and eye focus modes for the webcam.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by brookst »

reactordev wrote: post #293
brookst wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn’t this one single researcher?

What does that have to do with it? I said MBAs do that. As in, do that too… Take some arbitrary scaler and turn it into a mediocre metric, for some moronic target.

It just seems odd to use one example of one person to generalize about a group that one person isn’t even a member of.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by srinath693 »

The embarrassing part isn't that Microsoft employees prefer Claude Code. It's that Microsoft had every advantag, the OpenAI partnership, the distribution, the enterprise relationships, the $13B investment and still built a product their own engineers don't want to use. That's not a model problem. That's a product taste problem. Anthropic built Claude Code with like 30 engineers. Microsoft has tens of thousands. At some point you have to accept that no amount of investment compensates for not actually understanding what developers need.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by ikr678 »

beart wrote: post #382
raincole wrote: post #307

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> Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. AI really should be a freaking feature, not the identity of their products. What MS is doing now is like renaming Photoshop to Photoshop Neural Filter.

That's a great analogy, but could be taken one step further. Because Adobe would also have to rename the rest of their products to come close to what MS is doing. - Adobe Neural Filter Acrobat - Adobe Neural Filter App (previously photoshop) - Adobe Neural Filter Illustrator - Adobe 720 Neural Filter app - etc. By the way, why is app lowercase in "the Microsoft 365 Copilot app"? Is it not part of the trademark but ev…

'app' isnt part of that trademark, but on other products (Windows App) it is.

Searching the store or a company portal for one of these rebraned apps returns dozens of hits because 'windows', 'copilot', '365' and 'app' are all common words in most application descriptions.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by Lammy »

wolvoleo wrote: post #98
pjmlp wrote: post #41

That isn't going well for Satya.

Indeed it's not: https://www.windowslatest.com/2026/01/09/is-microsoft-losing... And: https://www.perspectives.plus/p/microsoft-365-copilot-commer... Tldr: Copilot has 1% marketshare among web chatbots and 1.85% of paid M365 users bought a subscription to it. As much as I think AI is overrated already, Copilot is pretty much the worst performing one out there from the big tech companies. Despite all the Copilot butto…

Great way to visualize the decline of software quality over the last twenty years: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=%22Something%20went%20wr...

Notable inflection point right around the time unlimited data became an afterthought and every piece of software decided it “needs” to spy on—— I mean needs to offer Fulfilling Connected Experiences at all times.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by felixg3 »

kemotep wrote: post #127

Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

There is also Security Copilot, which I accidentally enabled and got a 3000€ invoice by azure. Thanks, M$!

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by doomslayer999 »

satvikpendem wrote: post #137
paxys wrote: post #126

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Anthropic has a model. Microsoft doesn't.

Microsoft can use OpenAI models but it's not the model that's the problem, it's the application of them. Anthropic simply knows how to execute better.

Anthropic's Models are better though. It may not "perform" as well on the LLM task benchmarks, but its the only one that actual gives semi-intelligent responses and seems aligned with human wants. And yes, they definitely have much better execution. It's the only one I considered shelling out 20 bucks for.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by satvikpendem »

doomslayer999 wrote: post #497
satvikpendem wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft can use OpenAI models but it's not the model that's the problem, it's the application of them. Anthropic simply knows how to execute better.

Anthropic's Models are better though. It may not "perform" as well on the LLM task benchmarks, but its the only one that actual gives semi-intelligent responses and seems aligned with human wants. And yes, they definitely have much better execution. It's the only one I considered shelling out 20 bucks for.

GPT 5.2 Codex is often better and more thorough than Opus 4.5, it's just slower.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by bandrami »

sebazzz wrote: post #491
bandrami wrote: post #480

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can somebody give me a TLDR on what the "copilot button" does? I've never had one of those laptops and have never understood that. Does it just start the AI front-end? Does it power up the NPU?

It is just a button. Default it starts the Copilot app which is really the Office app that already existed but now with the copilot tab preselected. Also that Copilot runs in the cloud and doesn't use your NPU. The only thing until now I've found using the NPU are the built in blur, auto frame and eye focus modes for the webcam.

I got one of those Asus ROG laptops that bragged about having an NPU and I kept trying to figure out how to access it until I realized they just meant the integrated Ryzen GPU (which is also responsible for getting anything rendered by the discrete Nvidia GPU to the actual display). Also its alleged 16G of video memory included a mapped 8G of system RAM. I miss when vendors at least pretended to be honest.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Post by tommica »

Sharlin wrote: post #407
halapro wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fun fact: I used to automatically screenshot my desktop every few minutes eons ago. This would occasionally save me when I lost some work and could go back to check the screenshots. I only gave it up because it felt like a liability and, ahem, it was awkward to review screenshots and delete inopportune ones.

Long time ago I had a script that would regularly screenshot my desktop… and display the latest screenshot on a page in my `public_html`, on the public web. Just because I thought it would be fun.

You were a brave, brave person!
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