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Re: European Alternatives

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Post by Semaphor »

roelschroeven wrote: post #477
Semaphor wrote: post #89

Thought I'd have another look at mail providers, but from what I can see, none support the features I use with fastmail (custom domain, security key, unlimited on-the-fly aliases for sending).

I've been looking at mail providers too, and it's starting to look there are no real alternatives. Not just in Europe, but worldwide. I've been a happy user of Fastmail for quite some time now, and it's sad the the current geopolitical situation pressures me into migrating away. The alternative that's looking best to me so far is Kolab Now. I don't see a lot of user reviews of it on Reddit though, or anywhere else, s…

Doesn’t seem to support on-the-fly aliases for sending, requiring instead to set it up in advance. I use a custom mail per website/contact workflow, and with FM any reply uses whatever alias I used to receive the mail, with the option to change it to whatever I want without extra steps.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by deaux »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #472
deaux wrote: post #468

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course there is. Google Mush Ryanair, for one. And just 2 seconds of thinking is enough to answer that question. Do you think China wouldn't have bought ASML yet if money alone was enough?

I asked to discuss, not because I didn’t know the answer. Please attempt to be more polite in the future.

There was absolutely nothing about your comment that indicated this intent. Open questions can be asked for discussion, not closed yes/no factual questions with a singular, well-known answer.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by lostmsu »

Tade0 wrote: post #415
lostmsu wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a well off person your most significant purchase is going to be a house, and in Seattle they are 3x cheaper. I just left Seattle Greater Area and my 350sqm admittedly old house + a small ADU with an outdoor pool went for $2M (at the moment it was a downturn, so maybe $2.5M tops now). What can you get for that money in Greater Zurich Area? A 100sqm flat?

How long was the commute from your place? The rail network in and around Zurich is reliable and punctual, so you can live anywhere along that 30km long lake and still have your commute be 30-40m, without needing to search for a parking spot and whatnot. I experienced this myself when I was briefly commutung from Pfäffikon(SZ).

Commute to where? 15 minutes walking from Microsoft main campus and 10 minutes driving from a new Facebook campus. 10 minutes driving to a good daycare.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by DiggyJohnson »

malauxyeux wrote: post #291
DiggyJohnson wrote: post #256

What are some non-subjective reasons to use Euro alternatives? It reminds me of startup founders having to choose between the big expensive service or their buddy’s startup that intends to serve the same use case.

Here's one case from August 2025: ---- Nicolas Guillou, a French judge at the International Criminal Court, discusses in an interview with Le Monde the consequences of US sanctions imposed on him and eight other judges and prosecutors at the court. The sanctions were introduced after the court issued an arrest warrant for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The concrete consequences of the sanctions extend far…

I think you’re missing the point of my question. I’m not saying that story isn’t distressing and a good reason to use alternatives, but I’m asking about whether you can convince individuals and individual businesses that these alternatives are more cost effective or capable than the software they’re replacing.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by tsmr »

vldszn wrote: post #59

I submitted my project EasyInvoicePDF (a free & open-source invoice generator) a couple of months ago to European Alternatives but never heard back unfortunately. The project has no backend and is purely browser-based, but I’m based in Europe and developing the project here, so I consider it a European project =) App: https://easyinvoicepdf.com/?template=stripe GitHub: https://github.com/VladSez/easy-invoice-pdf

Same here. I created and submitted a European open-source Snapchat alternative, but it's been in “Waiting for Review” status for quite some time now.

Webpage: https://twonly.eu/en

Github: https://github.com/twonlyapp/twonly-app

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by looshch »

deaux wrote: post #466
looshch wrote: post #458

so much reasonable scepticism here is being downvoted, i don’t get why to add my 2 cents: why does anyone think the EU countries don’t or won’t pose the same risks as the US? They might just be doing it silently and illegally. Where is the guarantee that the mere fact a service is EU-based provides benefits over using US-based ones?

Most of it is entirely unreasonable and being posted by Americans with vested interests who would never dream of posting the same comment if it was about the US reducing their dependency on Chinese tech - think Huawei, Tencent, Alibaba, Bytedance. Imagine a post on that topic - there have been many when it was higher on the agenda - and droves of Europeans commenting "Gee, how strange that the US wants to do this". I…

> being posted by Americans > Americans with vested interests

proofs, please?

> who would never dream of posting the same comment if it was about the US reducing their dependency on Chinese tech

it’s just your assumption. I personally don’t know anyone from the states who would want this except their government

> Imagine a post on that topic - there have been many when it was higher on the agenda - and droves of Europeans commenting "Gee, how strange that the US wants to do this"

again, it’s the government who fights the dependency on China, not the regular people. You are confusing politics and normal people’s concerns

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by 202508042147 »

angristan wrote: post #482
202508042147 wrote: post #166

Doing my bit: migrating my small company's db this weekend from AWS RDS to Hetzner VPS + volumes. Fingers crossed! Already done: replaced SendGrid with Sweego. Later: move domains from US registrar to EU based. The difficult bit is the Microsoft Office because we are also using Azure DevOps for code, tickets, wiki and ci/cd.

Unfortunately Hetzner volumes have pretty low iops for databases

We have a small database with low access rates. We'll be fine, at least for a while.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by kergonath »

tialaramex wrote: post #471
kergonath wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This started out as an ideal about Goods. I am sorry but no. This is a common myth, but go way back to the original treaty of Rome and you’ll see much more than free movement for goods. It was just a convenient first step.

I didn't know that's a myth, do you have anything I can look at to learn more, besides "try reading the entire Treaty of Rome" ?

Reading the preamble of the treaty is enough because it explains the mindset behind the European project. The Schuman declaration is also short and very clear on the subject. Even though it’s not a treaty or regulation, it’s a clear demonstration that the people at the time saw much further than just the economy. The core message is political integration to prevent Europe from tearing itself apart every 50 years.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by fatherwavelet »

honzabe wrote: post #460
gtirloni wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The huge influx of competent European engineers to the US is a real thing.

I think you underestimate how dramatically the perception of the US in Europe changed for the worse. It was already in nose dive during recent months, but the recent days (Greenland crisis) will put a nail in the coffin. I don’t have a crystal ball, but I expect that influx to dry up very soon.

What is the European alternative to the US military if Russia attacks Europe?

This whole thing just seems like the standard hysterical overreaction of people who spend too much time on social media.

Re: European Alternatives

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Post by honzabe »

fatherwavelet wrote: post #499
honzabe wrote: post #460

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you underestimate how dramatically the perception of the US in Europe changed for the worse. It was already in nose dive during recent months, but the recent days (Greenland crisis) will put a nail in the coffin. I don’t have a crystal ball, but I expect that influx to dry up very soon.

What is the European alternative to the US military if Russia attacks Europe? This whole thing just seems like the standard hysterical overreaction of people who spend too much time on social media.

> What is the European alternative to the US military if Russia attacks Europe?

European military. Why do some people act as if European countries had no armies?

And even if we had no armies and Russia attacked and totally destroyed us, how is it related to the topic discussed here, which is whether the influx of European engineers to the US will continue or not?

> This whole thing just seems like the standard hysterical overreaction of people who spend too much time on social media.

Perhaps. I don't think it is, but let's say you are right. How is that relevant? People do not want to go to a country they perceive negatively. Whether that perception is an objective fact or hysteria is, in this context, immaterial.

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