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I accept there are productivity gains, but it's hard to take "10x" seriously. It's such a tired trope. Is no one humble enough to be a meager 2.5x engineer?
Even 2.5x is absurd. If they said 1.5x I might believe them.
Web development is fun again
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Re: Web development is fun again
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If you static render, it won't be an interactive application. With React SSR you get the best of both: stream static HTML chunks immediately, and rehydrate with JS later, prioritizing components the user interacts with. It should load quicker compared to traditional React apps where the browser loads the HTML, then loads the JS bundle, and only then renders a loading skeleton while likely triggering more requests for…
> It should load quicker compared to traditional React apps where the browser loads the HTML, then loads the JS bundle, and only then renders a loading skeleton while likely triggering more requests for data. Then your JS bundle is broken. Promises exist. Modules exist. HTTP/2+ exists. You can load data while you are loading a small amount of JS required to render that data while you are loading other parts of your J…
If you use code splitting, your initial bundle size can be smaller, yes. That's about it.
I guess in theory you can hack together static loading skeletons that you then remove when React loaded your initial bundle, but that's certainly far from a common approach. By that standard, the vast majority of JS bundles would be "broken".
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Or, given that OP is presumably a developer who just doesn't focus fully on front end code they could skip straight to checking MDN for "center div" and get a How To article ( https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/How_to/Layo... ) as the first result without relying on spicy autocomplete. Given how often people acknowledge that ai slop needs to be verified, it seems like a shitty way to achieve something l…
LLMs work very well for a variety of software tasks — we have lots of experience around the industry now. If you haven’t been convinced by pure argument in 2026 then you probably won’t be. But the great thing is you don’t have to take anyone’s word for it. This isn’t crypto, where everyone using it has a stake in its success. You can just try it, or not.
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Don't worry, it's an LLM that wrote it based on the patterns in the text, e.g. "Starting a new project once felt insurmountable. Now, it feels realistic again."
That is a normal, run of the mill sentence.
One could argue that some humans write that way, but ultimately it does not matter if the text was generated by an LLM, reworded by a human in a semi-closed loop or organically produced by human. The patterns indicate that the text is just a regurgitation of buzzwords and it's even worse if an LLM-like text was produced organically.
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Just you wait until the powers that be take cars away from us! What absolute FOOLS you all are to shape your lives around something that could be taken away from us at any time! How are you going to get to work when gas stations magically disappear off the face of the planet? I ride a horse to work, and y'all are idiots for developing a dependency on cars. Next thing you're gonna tell me is we're going to go to war f…
I mean, they're taking away parts of cars at the moment. You gotta pay monthly to unlock features your car already has.
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You're completely free to write software targeting the browser platform without a framework, build pipeline, and bundler. Those things exist for a reason though and running a large project without them quickly runs into worse problems.
Those things exist because of eachother. If you’re not using a reactive framework, you probably have no need for a bundler and if you’re not using a bundler, you probably have no need for a build pipeline.
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For me it all the build stuff and scaffolding I have to get in place before I can even start tinkering on a project. I never formally learned all the systems and tools and AI makes all of that 10x easier. When I hit something I cannot figure out instead of googling for 1/2 hour it is 10 minutes in AI.
The difference is that after you’ve googled it for ½ hour, you’ve learned something. If you ask an LLM to do it for you, you’re none the wiser.
I've been programming for 15+ years, and I think I've forgotten the overwhelming majority of the things I've googled. Hell, I can barely remember the things I've googled yesterday.
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#498Au contraire. Web development has always been fun, unless you add all the crap mentioned in TFA. If you feel you need all that stuff to feel grown up, then I guess LLMs help a lot. But the barometer hasn't changed: make something that people love.
So you’re skipping any sort of a build pipeline? You’re not going to bundle, so no code minification? You’re going to skip tests ? And everyone who uses these things just does them to “feel grown up” and not for any particular benefit or purpose beyond that?
Re: Web development is fun again
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Sorry friend, if you can’t identify the important differences between a compiler and an LLM, either intentionally or unintentionally (I can’t tell), then I must question the value of whatever you have to say on the topic.
The important difference is the reduction in boilerplate, which allows programs to be written with (often) significantly less code. Hence the time savings (and fun) spoken of in the original article. This isn't really a new phenomenon. Languages have been adding things like arrays and maps as builtins to reduce the boilerplate required around them. The modern languages of which we speak take that same idea to a whole…
And yes, this isn’t a new phenomenon.
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> "I imagine this same argument happening when people stopped using machine code and assembly en masse and started using FORTRAN or COBOL." Yeah, certainly. But since this has nothing to do with my argument, which was an answer to the very existential question of a (postulated) non-coder , and not a comment on a forgotten pissing contest between coders , it's utterly irrelevant. :(
This is quite funny when you created the pissing contest between "coders" and "non-coders" in this thread. Those labels seem very important to you.
And of course, these labels are important to me for (precise) language defines the boundaries of my world; coder vs. non-coder, medico vs. quack, writer vs. analphabet, truth vs. lie, etc. Elementary.