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As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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I cannot stop thinking about the LLMs having this Midas touch quality, because everything they touch seems to ruin things or make people want to avoid them, for example: - Ghibli studio style graphics, - the infamous em-dashes and bullet points - customer service (just try to use Klarnas "support" these days...) - Oracle share price ;) - imagine being one of the worlds most solid and unassailable tech companies, losi…

Oracle was "one of the worlds most solid and unassailable tech companies"?

Yes, absolutely. It is essentially the "nobody ever got fired for buying " of the databases universe.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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I have a feeling every single supplier of DRAM is going to be far more interested in long-term contracts with Apple than with (for example) OpenAI, since there's basically zero possibility Apple goes kaput and reneges on their contracts to buy RAM.

Yes, but OpenAI wants $200 billion in RAM and Apple wants $10.

But you DO have to consider the possibility they Enron themselves and the promised $200 billion never exists. These are not the most honest of people.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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I cannot stop thinking about the LLMs having this Midas touch quality, because everything they touch seems to ruin things or make people want to avoid them, for example: - Ghibli studio style graphics, - the infamous em-dashes and bullet points - customer service (just try to use Klarnas "support" these days...) - Oracle share price ;) - imagine being one of the worlds most solid and unassailable tech companies, losi…

>Where does it stop? I think you explained it very well. For now all sorts of "creative finance" are being invented to give AI momentum. At the same time, some of us that have to work with this monstrosity for 10 hours a day are nauseated. The same feeling I had towards putrid technology is now extended to generative technology. I would rather fight and lose my job than call this intelligence of any form. It is a gen…

> Was very enthusiastic in tabnine days. Used copilot since closed beta. Use it for 10 hours a day.

I sort of have a similar story with it. Was also one of the earliest GH Copilot users...but now I find its just utter crap. The one thing that worries me though is, while most of the tech folks have grown disillusioned, for each engineer who now rejects LLMs, there seems to be 20 "common" persons who just absolutely love it, for their ephemeral use cases, like planning their next trip, or asking if it will rain tomorrow and similar. And this sort of usage I think quietly underpins the drive. Its not just the CEOs, it is also the masses that absolutely love to use it, unfortunately.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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I cannot stop thinking about the LLMs having this Midas touch quality, because everything they touch seems to ruin things or make people want to avoid them, for example: - Ghibli studio style graphics, - the infamous em-dashes and bullet points - customer service (just try to use Klarnas "support" these days...) - Oracle share price ;) - imagine being one of the worlds most solid and unassailable tech companies, losi…

We need a word for a Midas touch except instead of gold everything turns to feces.

Montezuma's touch

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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I mostly agree with your sentiment, but saying "math is not art" is the same as saying "writing is not art". Calculation isn't art. But math isn't calculation. Math is a social activity shared between humans. Like writing, much of it is purely utilitarian. But there's always an aesthetic component, and some works explore that without regard to utility. It's a funny kind of art, accessible to few and beautiful to even…

This really made me think and you're right. Perhaps I should have said "calculation" instead of "math."

The Demoscene would disagree ;)

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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Some open source projects use Slack to communicate, which is a real ram hog. Github, especially for viewing large PR discussions, takes a huge amount of memory. If someone with a low-memory laptop wants to get into coding, modern software-development-related services are incredible memory hogs.

IRC is far superior than Slack when it comes to RAM usage. Projects should just switch to that.

Or even Jabber/XMPP, which has video call and inline images support and it would run on machines a magnitude slower.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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I don't believe that there is near enough room for creativity to shine through in the prompt-generation pipeline, and I find the mention of a talent like Ansel Adams in this context asinine. There is no control there, and without control over creation I don't believe that creativity CAN flourish, but I may be wrong. Electronic music is analogous to digital art made by humans, not generated art.

You may check these videos by Oleg Kuvaev. 100% generated using AI. Everything: text, music, characters, voices, editing -- all done via prompts, using multiple engines (I think he mentioned about a dozen services involved). I would not call it "high art", but it's definitely not a slop, it's an artist skillfully using AI as a tool. https://youtu.be/A2H62x_-k5Q?si=EHq5Y4KCzBfo0tfm https://youtu.be/rzCpT_S536c?si=pxiD…

This is absolutely slop. Higher quality slop, but slop nonetheless. Ask yourself: what does it say? What does it change in you? How this makes you feel?

Artists use their medium to communicate. More often than not, everything in a piece is deliberate. What is being communicated here? Who deliberated on the details?

Those videos are as much "art" as Marvel's endless slop is "art".

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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This is a common sentiment but it doesn't make any sense. Voting for the wrong politician is worse than not voting at all, so why is it seen as some moral necessity for everyone to vote? If someone doesn't have enough political knowledge to vote correctly, perhaps they shouldn't vote.

I don't have a stake in forcing people to vote or not, because I generally agree that uninformed people shouldn't be pressured to make a last minute decision if they don't want to. I think everyone knows elections are at their least honest days before the vote. But to engage with your question, not voting is the same as voting. You are forgoing your voice and giving more weight to the people that do vote. It's limite…

I'm not so sure not voting is the same as voting (if you meant the opposite my apologies). Imagine the train switch scenario but it's an unknown amount of people on both tracks, do you pull the lever? If you don't, do you still assume culpability for the outcome? I don't think there is a simple or easy answer to that.

Also a lot of people who chose not to vote have become disillusioned by the common narrative around political action, the democratic process, and even the concept of political authority. It's extremely grating to be berated (not saying you, other people) about not voting when they still believe the things their middle school teachers taught them about politics and tend to be the least politically knowledgeable out of everybody.

Re: As AI gobbles up chips, prices for devices may rise

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The weird thing is that the AI companies themselves are hiring like there's no tomorrow, doing talent aquisitions etc. Why would you do that if the purpose of your product is to reduce necessary workforce? Why isn't that the first question that comes to mind for a journalist covering the latest acquisition? It's like an open secret that nobody really talks about.

To answer your questions (I don't think it's what you wanted, but people will scratch their heads after reading them): On reality, they are hiring because they have a lot of (investment) money. They need a lot of hardware, but they also need people to manage the hardware. On an alternative reality where their products do what they claim, they would also hire, because people working there would be able to replace lots…

Just to clarify: Most AI companies don't own their hardware, with a select few exceptions. That's why a handful of hyperscaler stock has rallied recently on letters of intent on large orders from AI companies. Which technically is a handful of shell companies under complete control of their parent companies, which can then take on credit without it being visible on the parent company balance sheet.

But addressing the specific question: It is still a valid. If the product sold is a 10x developer force multiplier, you'd expect to see the company fully utilizing it. Productivity would be expected to increase, rapidly, as the product matures, and independently of any acquisitions made at the same time.

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