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Re: Backing up Spotify

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Spotify fucks over most artists anyway, so who cares?

Spotify pays the rightsholders. What are they supposed to do about the shitty contracts that the artists signs with the labels?

I am providing my own music on Spotify via a distributor I a pay 50 Euros once. What do I get from Spotify? Basically nothing! It is not the rightholders as I am the rightholder! Spotify is a scam for artist.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Spotify used to be good, but have enshittified their UI past the point of usability for me. It really wants to play me tracks that are profitable for Spotify, not tracks I want to hear. What you say is still true of the Amazon and Apple offerings, though. Haven't tried Youtube Music, so can't comment on that.

how are some tracks more profitable to spotify than others?

They were caught flooding their own playlists with specially for them produced Garbage Music for which they don't have to pay royalties

https://liveforlivemusic.com/news/has-spotify-been-creating-...

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Hmmm I don’t like this. There are sources for music with better quality out there and all this will do is paint them a bigger target for takedowns/prosecution. I am worried about losing their ebook library. Quoting from the announcement: “Generally speaking, music is already fairly well preserved.“ They should have done this as a separate identity.

The main difference is that people can re-host and seed part of the data by offering space in their own servers.

If AA goes down, it's not the end of it all, a new one comes back up and the seeders are still there.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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> The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. I wouldn’t be so sure. There are already tools to automatically locate and stream pirated TV and movie content automatic and on demand. They’re so common that I had non-t…

Spotify is $12/month at most to get unlimited ad-free access to virtually all music. To get access to "all" TV content legally would be hundreds of dollars a month. And for many movies you must buy/rent each individually. And legal TV and movies are much more encumbered by DRM and lock in, limiting the way you can view them. (like many streaming apps removing AirPlay support, or limiting you to 720p in some browsers)…

It's absolutely not all, I'm an extremely casual listener, not 'into' music or anything, and I have plenty in a playlist that have disappeared (mostly I don't even know what they are, it's just greyed out with no information) for whatever reason. And that's just the stuff that was there at some point that I liked.

One of them has come back recently. It's still listed as by the wrong artist (same name, but dead, vs. the active artist who actually performed it) but I'm not reporting it again because I suspect I may have made it disappear for a couple of years in doing so before.

It's kind of crap and disorganised after anything more than barely glancing at it really, must be infuriating for (or just not used by) people who actually are into it.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Truly amazing work. I couldn't help but being sad of the less popular songs not being currently stored, as those are definitely the ones more in risk of being lost forever.

If you like the goal and you have even a few 100gb available on your server, consider "donating" some of that space to seeding the data (music or books). It's absolutely how we can fight the system, even if just a tiny bit. https://annas-archive.org/torrents

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Not that we should, but it's technically feasible to have a music streaming server with the torrent as the backend, and selectively download the part of the torrent in respond to on-demand streaming request from the client.

spotify used to do just that (stream p2p) until 2014 or so https://www.scribd.com/document/56651812/kreitz-spotify-kth1...

https://www.csc.kth.se/~gkreitz/spotify/kreitz-spotify_kth11...

KTH link is better than scribd for downloading. though academic links are sometimes prone to link rot.

Re: Backing up Spotify

#498

This is insane. I definitely was not aware Spotify DRM had been cracked to enable downloading at scale like this. The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. But this does seem like it will be a godsend for researche…

> The thing is, this doesn't even seem particularly useful for average consumers/listeners, since Spotify itself is so convenient, and trying to locate individual tracks in massive torrent files of presumably 10,000's of tracks each sounds horrible. I wouldn’t be so sure. There are already tools to automatically locate and stream pirated TV and movie content automatic and on demand. They’re so common that I had non-t…

> There are already tools to automatically locate and stream pirated TV and movie

Before we had spotify we had grooveshark. Streaming pirated content came first, and everything old is new again.

Re: Backing up Spotify

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Spotify pays the rightsholders. What are they supposed to do about the shitty contracts that the artists signs with the labels?

I am providing my own music on Spotify via a distributor I a pay 50 Euros once. What do I get from Spotify? Basically nothing! It is not the rightholders as I am the rightholder! Spotify is a scam for artist.

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Re: Backing up Spotify

#500

Very interesting that a white noise track for babies is the 4th most popular track on Spotify.

Interesting if that is considered to be copyrightable. Any white noise track is perceptually indistinguishable from another, but none have the exact same sequence of samples except by chance, or if the noise generator happens to be deterministic as a function of time.

White noise isn't copyrightable.
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