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I just force quit Firefox because it was slowing the macbook with loads of memory use for nothing much running. On with Chrome... They should that sort of thing?
I have not really ever had this issue, and I use Firefox Developer Edition on an M2 Macbook Pro every work day.
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This is how Firefox fell behind Chrome and bled their entire market share. The strategy of letting Chrome out innovate them and then copy what they think is good is not a strategy that works.
I'm quite sure only "we" care about esoteric browser features. "Does it have tabs? OK. Fine." Firefox losing market share were probably more due to Google nagging desktop users than features. What did Chrome have that Firefox didn't?
I think people screaming "but AI is the future" doesn't recognize what the problem is. The problem is not AI. The problem is that Mozilla keeps jumping on fads instead of focusing on their browser core. There are a tons of "we bundled all the latest crap" Chrome forks out there. Nobody needs more those. Stop pushing bells and whistles. Give us more extensibility instead. Keep supporting v2 manifest and add more. Ther…
I agree they should make the browser core good, but right now they are entirely dependent on their biggest competitor.
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Any AI product I pay for is great. Any AI product I don't pay for is terrible.
> Any AI product I pay for is great. Any AI product I don't pay for is terrible. This doesn't sound like the "free sample" model is working then? If I try the free version of product X and it's terrible, that will discourage me from ever trying the paid version.
The free samples worked famously initially to get people to try it initially, though.
But whenever that free Gemini text pops up in my search, I know why people think it's stupid. But that's not the experience I have with paid options.
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>If this is what stops Firefox from drowning By having the most engaged users leave and splinter the community furtehr in hopes that Mozilla out competes the trillion dollar monopoly in a war of data centers? We really will do anything except message your policy makers, huh? I migrated several times before and am browsing around now. Id even be so bold to say that Mozilla dying will not kill the Quantum web engine sc…
> By having the most engaged users leave and splinter the community furtehr Power users going to a fork like Mullvad or Waterfox still helps Mozilla. Just in the same way that people switching to Brave helps Google. > We really will do anything except message your policy makers, huh? I actually do this. And I'm actually decently satisfied with one of them. I bet you're grateful for that person too even if you don't k…
I'm grateful for actions, not words. I don't see much action here.
>Seriously, I don't get the problem.
Easy to be blind when you choose not to see. I don't have much to add to neither the llm nor Mozilla debate. We have plenty of literature on the issues with both.
This would tap into the insight that not everyone dislikes the same AI features. For many AI isn't a dirty word, but rather they've seen plenty of examples where it's simply annoying or over-taxing resources.
For example some like AI to build a quick reference summary from a set of web results, but don’t want a full agenic-style AI to extend beyond that.
This could potentially entice users not to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and maybe even make a few converts.
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> > I use zero so-called "AI" features in my day to day life. None. Not one. > I know so many people who made that same argument, if you can call it that, about smartphones. I had to use a ledger database at work for audit trails because they were hotness. I think we were one of the few that actually used AWS QLDB. The experience I've had with people submitting AI generated code has been poor. Poor performing code, p…
I've been posting recently how I refactored a few different code bases with the help of AI. Faster code, higher quality code, overall smaller. AI is not a hammer, it's a Lathe: incredibly powerful but only if you understand exactly what you're doing otherwise it will happily make a big mess.
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I've been posting recently how I refactored a few different code bases with the help of AI. Faster code, higher quality code, overall smaller. AI is not a hammer, it's a Lathe: incredibly powerful but only if you understand exactly what you're doing otherwise it will happily make a big mess.
if you have to understand exactly what you're doing, why not just... do it?
I'm going to chime in here, I think 1. This is great and Mozilla is listening to it's core fans and 2. I want Firefox to be a competitive browser. Without AI enabled features + agent mode being first class citizens, this will be a non-starter in 2 years. I want my non-tech family members/friends to install Firefox not because I come over at Christmas, but because they want to. Because it's a browser that "just works.…
Lots of disagreement, but from necessity I (sort of) agree. Firefox foremost needs users. If it takes AI features to get them, so be it. However, Firefox cannot afford to lose its loyal user base, so they have to be optional.