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Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by KingMob » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 4:36 AM UTC

nickpp wrote: post #477

KingMob wrote: post #146

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Theory: > In socialism it's much more random: black markets, lists, lotteries, friends and network of connections. The side effect is that the most productive individuals are discouraged and punished, with the whole society lagging in effect. Evidence: the vast majority of European countries who have socialized medicine and seem to be doing fine.

> the vast majority of European countries who have socialized medicine and seem to be doing fine You do realize that the "vast majority" of European countries doesn't mean highly developed Western Europe, right? Here in Central and Eastern Europe (where I live) socialized medicine is not "fine". You should visit some hospitals in Bulgaria or Romanian to get a more complete picture. We pay the state outrageous insuran…

My point remains that there are plenty of thriving countries with socialized medicine, so socialized medicine _per se_ is not the problem.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by somewhereoutth » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 3:21 PM UTC

impossiblefork wrote: post #448

somewhereoutth wrote: post #190

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"the accumulation of capital by some to the exclusion of others" This allows decentralised decision making for large grained resource allocation - for example should we build a factory for shoes, or for toothbrushes? - and is a good thing, as central planning has been demonstrated to not work if applied to the whole economy. (the converse, no central planning to any of the economy, has also been demonstrated to not w…

Maybe, and you really believe that, then you do believe in capitalism as Louis Blanc defined it, even though he invented it as a way to characterize something which he regarded as bad. But this kind of thing, i.e. capital accumulation by some to the exclusion of others, is, I think, objectively problematic in that it's not really compatible with free markets since capital ownership will be barrier to entry once capit…

My point is that socially beneficial capital intensive projects require, well, a large lump of capital. This can be organised by the state (command economy), or through allowing private accumulation of capital - but here I do include corporations, and indeed financing through loans. It would be quite possible for individuals to have much the same wealth (perhaps modulo time to retirement?), and to be pooling it as share owners of said corporations. This would still be a capitalist system - but a fairer one maybe!

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by sdoering » Fri, Dec 19, 2025, 5:24 PM UTC

Alex_L_Wood wrote: post #213

sdoering wrote: post #128

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Can't think of a socialist country, but invite you to visit the German system. Significantly less costly for society and objectively better for the people falling ill (or just having a baby born). And no, no lists, no lotteries or any of that other lies the conservative US media is spewing out to keep the masses pacified. I strongly believe, that if US citizens were to experience German healthcare for a year and havi…

No lists? Have you ever actually lived in Germany and had to interact with its’ healthcare system?

Born, raised currently living here. Yes. And in comparison to a lot of countries' health system, very happy to be privileged to be living here.

Yes, this system has issues. But I'd still take it any day over the US.

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by crazychicken25 » Sat, Dec 20, 2025, 11:54 PM UTC

jessepasley wrote: post #423

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So, exposing jew criminals is anti-semitic?

Always has been ;)

its not anti-sematic ,just don't think all jews are like this Bec. of a few bad people ,there are bad people in all countries and nations you don't make all the people in those countries bad Bec. of the individuals

Re: Children with cancer scammed out of millions fundraised for their treatment

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Post by DonHopkins » Mon, Dec 29, 2025, 7:22 PM UTC

stinkbeetle wrote: post #216

sdoering wrote: post #128

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Can't think of a socialist country, but invite you to visit the German system. Significantly less costly for society and objectively better for the people falling ill (or just having a baby born). And no, no lists, no lotteries or any of that other lies the conservative US media is spewing out to keep the masses pacified. I strongly believe, that if US citizens were to experience German healthcare for a year and havi…

Healthcare in the US seems to cost about double per capita what it does in other developed countries with universial/social healthcare. Public spending in US is on-par with others, and then private spending is that much again. Standard of healthcare I've heard (and would hope) is world class if you can pay, but still something seems broken there to be sure. But you have lists, queues, lotteries, whatever you call it.…

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