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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by sidewndr46 »

Thrymr wrote: post #445
DANmode wrote: post #441

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you elaborate? Do you mean to say they’ll never take the payment?

What are the terms? It is not at all clear from the announcement. "part of this three-year licensing agreement", it _could_ mean the license cost is $1 billion, which Disney in turn invests in OpenAI in return for equity, and they're calling it "investment" (that's what's hypothesized above, but I don't think we know). Disney surely gets something for the license other than the privilege of buying $1 billion in OpenA…

Disney gets the opportunity to tell the board and investors that they are now partnered with a leading AI company. In effect, Disney is now an AI company as well. They haven't really done anything, but if anyone asks they can just say "of course we're at the forefront of the entertainment industry. We're already leveraging AI in our partnerships"

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Post by sidewndr46 »

ramesh31 wrote: post #30
postalcoder wrote: post #12

buried the lede: > As part of the agreement, Disney will make a $1 billion equity investment in OpenAI, and receive warrants to purchase additional equity. I say this with no snark or disdain: Sam has mastered the art of the flywheel. Re licensed ai videos, if anyone wants to see the perspective the C-suites are being sold on, check out this episode of Belloni's The Town, in which they discuss the vision for AI + IP…

>I say this with no snark or disdain: Sam has mastered the art of the flywheel. It's been his entire career. Guy has made billions of dollars from talking.

Isn't that the case for most ultra-rich CEOs? All of the CEOs of Microsoft apparently started off either building product or helping develop the business into something profitable. But at some point it doesn't really matter if you have the skills to be an individual contributor, a team leader, or even a vice president. The role of CEO mostly is to keep investors happy & secondarily to put the right people in the company together to make things happen.

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Post by sidewndr46 »

irishcoffee wrote: post #408
ramesh31 wrote: post #30

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>I say this with no snark or disdain: Sam has mastered the art of the flywheel. It's been his entire career. Guy has made billions of dollars from talking.

Yeah, he’s a sociopath

I can't really see how Altman is a sociopath? I think his current vision greatly exceeds the technical capabilities that OpenAI can ever build. OpenAI seems to have produced some genuinely interesting products on the other hand. But they aren't profitable at present and I don't see it happening.

Altman talks to the talk of a CEO who is going to build a company that can change the world. It's what investors want to hear. He seems to make as many attempts as possible to actually execute on that. I think most of those plans are unlikely to be as successful as desired. But this isn't Theranos level fraud, where what they are trying to build is obviously impossible.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by Ylpertnodi »

squarefoot wrote: post #468
lolive wrote: post #467

Will ChatGPT generate the Star Wars scripts from now on? [Ahem… And can it make them interesting?]

AI will in a few years generate entire movies, including Star Wars ones. I can see at least one remake of A New Hope coming in the next years with all the original cast after their characteristics are licensed for use with AI. The huge amount of money saved makes just impossible for the studios to ignore the technology.

> The huge amount of money saved makes just impossible for the studios to ignore the technology.

It will be interesting to see the knock-on reaction to the quality of the output vs the money saved.

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Post by jkestner »

DrewADesign wrote: post #428
aerostable_slug wrote: post #426

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If it's smart it won't be what you planned, but it'll almost always be what you like. If you thought the Vader scene at the end of Rogue One was stupid fanservice, it leans one way; if you went "FINALLY! YES!" it leans another. Lather rinse repeat across many potential inputs. With the right sensors, your sentiment will be apparent to the system and it will be able to tune on the fly.

I think curated interactive environments like games are a much more realistic application of those distant technologies than automatically modified Hollywood movies on the fly. And personally, I have absolutely no desire to modify movies that bothered me, story-wise, artistically, or editorially, with my own ideas. Likewise, I also don’t want to modify classic paintings to make the people fit my preferences for attra…

Art doesn’t smoothly fit in, it imposes.

Clearly there’s a market for Netflix background noise, but no one’s going to theme parks for that.

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Post by matsemann »

71bw wrote: post #480
array_key_first wrote: post #346

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I swear to god Instagram is like the patriarchy speedrun. If it finds out you're a woman, within mere minutes it's 100% "you're fat" "try this diet" "you've GOT to buy this viral dress on shein!!" And if you're a man, it's boobs, ass, objectification, and products to make you feel more like a man. The sheer velocity at which Instagram will shovel you into capitalist-patriachy++ is shocking.

...have you ever thought about the way you're using the app, then? Because I, personally, get nothing else other than dumb memes and posts from people I follow.

No, stop with the stupid shaming. The point was that the algorithm pushes certain content on people, no matter what they actually want to see.

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Post by ramesh31 »

zpeti wrote: post #474
ramesh31 wrote: post #30

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>I say this with no snark or disdain: Sam has mastered the art of the flywheel. It's been his entire career. Guy has made billions of dollars from talking.

Has he made billions? He's obviously done well but I'm not sure he has been able to capture any value from openai except for publicity, and what else does he have? A few $10m from loopt and ycombinator?

>Has he made billions? He's obviously done well but I'm not sure he has been able to capture any value from openai except for publicity, and what else does he have?

Forbes has him at $2.2bn, mostly from Reddit and Stripe https://www.forbes.com/profile/sam-altman/

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Post by bmacho »

Hamuko wrote: post #42
gekoxyz wrote: post #32

I never thought this could happen, especially after the "Ghibli scandal". OpenAI has pulled a majestic business move. They got to allow people to generate Disney characters without issue AND will give 1 billion dollars to OpenAI? Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos, and since they don't have to pretend they didn't train on their intellectual property anymore I'm really curious to see where t…

> Now the internet will be flooded by Disney character's videos How is Disney okay with this anyway? They've sent their lawyers after daycare centers who dared to paint a picture of a Disney character on their walls. Why are they suddenly going to ignore me prompting a video of Winnie the Pooh hitting the bong?

> How is Disney okay with this anyway?

They rather have control over who, when, how can create AI with Disney property, than let people figure it out themselves.

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Post by array_key_first »

71bw wrote: post #480
array_key_first wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I swear to god Instagram is like the patriarchy speedrun. If it finds out you're a woman, within mere minutes it's 100% "you're fat" "try this diet" "you've GOT to buy this viral dress on shein!!" And if you're a man, it's boobs, ass, objectification, and products to make you feel more like a man. The sheer velocity at which Instagram will shovel you into capitalist-patriachy++ is shocking.

...have you ever thought about the way you're using the app, then? Because I, personally, get nothing else other than dumb memes and posts from people I follow.

When I say this happens in mere minutes and to everyone I know, I mean it.

For the record, I don't use Instagram because it's basically always been toxic. It's one of the fastest ways to feel bad about your body and life.

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Post by DrewADesign »

jkestner wrote: post #495
DrewADesign wrote: post #428

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think curated interactive environments like games are a much more realistic application of those distant technologies than automatically modified Hollywood movies on the fly. And personally, I have absolutely no desire to modify movies that bothered me, story-wise, artistically, or editorially, with my own ideas. Likewise, I also don’t want to modify classic paintings to make the people fit my preferences for attra…

Art doesn’t smoothly fit in, it imposes. Clearly there’s a market for Netflix background noise, but no one’s going to theme parks for that.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.
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