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BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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2025: https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2025/ 2014: https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2014/ If this was like “find 5 differences game” you’d lose :-)

Are you serious? New motors, new battery pack architecture, chemistry, etc, new body structure (giga castings), new interior, new facia and body panels, new computer architecture, new door handles. It goes on and on and on. Find me a part on your 2014 that is the same on the 2025. Show it to me in the Tesla parts catalog. It’s online. Should be easy. Get a grip.

putting a lipstick on a pig, eh? :)

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> BMW has over-engineered the They have over-engineered the everything , because that is what BMW does. That is what they have been about for the last thirty years.

After reading the blog post I had the same thought. Doing an oil change on my F650GS motorcycle required removing the plastics, draining the oil from both the top and bottom of the motorcycle, removing a plate on the side of the engine after install the BMW specified oil redirection funnel, extracting the filter and reinstalling. The oil funnel had a legit BMW part number. Most of us either just made a mess or used a…

> install the BMW specified oil redirection funnel

I assumed this was satire. It is not. :|

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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2025: https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2025/ 2014: https://www.kbb.com/tesla/model-s/2014/ If this was like “find 5 differences game” you’d lose :-)

Are you serious? New motors, new battery pack architecture, chemistry, etc, new body structure (giga castings), new interior, new facia and body panels, new computer architecture, new door handles. It goes on and on and on. Find me a part on your 2014 that is the same on the 2025. Show it to me in the Tesla parts catalog. It’s online. Should be easy. Get a grip.

just asked my wife and she said the first thing she looks when she is deciding to buy a car are giga castings and facia and door handles - boom - tesla s ftw ;)

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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I am affacted by this as well: the rear knuckle uniball bearing was broken after 3 years (Achsschenkel). Many MY here in Europe have this issue, due to bad parts or too hard suspension. But there are two other things that make it a bit unfair for Tesla in comparison to other brands: Often the cars fail official inspections because of rotten breaks - this happens when your drive carefully and the Tesla is using regene…

> Often the cars fail official inspections because of rotten br[e]ak[e]s - this happens when your drive carefully and the Tesla is using regenerative breaking instead of the real br[e]ak[e]s. That's something that they should have taken into consideration when designing the car.

It is not a big deal. Just burnish it once every few months when it makes high pitched sound during low speed braking. https://service.tesla.com/docs/Public/diy/model3/en_us/GUID-...

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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This is like comparing a Casio to a Rolex. Both do roughly the same thing, but the markets are completely different. Nobody buys a high-end luxury car like a Taycan because it makes financial sense. The manufacturers know this and price everything accordingly.

You realize that most Ferraris don't decrease, but increase in value over time?

Only if you baby it

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Not enough people know how cool the Prius hybrid system is. One would think having EV + gas would add complexity, but it actually allows them to delete a lot of parts. There is no clutch, no belts, no starter, there's practically nothing that can break. Not knowing how the regen affects braking I brought my Prius in for 80k service and asked for new brake pads and mechanic asked me why I want to replace them, they lo…

Isn't there even less in a proper BEV? You lose the benefit of being able to pay the gas tax though.

You also lose the ability to pull over virtually anywhere and refill your tank in five minutes, as well as the maintenance benefits that come from a decades-old design versus whatever software horrors are lurking in your car.

To top that all off, in parts of CA electricity is now 50c/kWh, which makes it roughly equally expensive to charge an EV as it is to buy a tank of gas.

I love electric cars, but there is a gap between what they COULD be and what they are.

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That's not even 26h /week. All this stat show is that there are probably more jobs in Germany. Need more data to draw any conclusions.

Not according to eurostat: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... The theory that Greeks work more hours because less of them work in total doesn't line up with the numbers. But if we pick Poles instead of Greeks, they have a similar level of employment to Germany while working just as many hours as the Greeks

thanks. very interesting links. overall it seems the job market in europe keeps improving.

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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Isn't there even less in a proper BEV? You lose the benefit of being able to pay the gas tax though.

You also lose the ability to pull over virtually anywhere and refill your tank in five minutes, as well as the maintenance benefits that come from a decades-old design versus whatever software horrors are lurking in your car. To top that all off, in parts of CA electricity is now 50c/kWh, which makes it roughly equally expensive to charge an EV as it is to buy a tank of gas. I love electric cars, but there is a gap b…

> To top that all off, in parts of CA electricity is now 50c/kWh

It's trending up to $0.90-1.00/kWh in places now.

Re: BMW PHEV: Safety fuse replacement is extremely expensive

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It’s funny how I extrapolate car design sessions in my head based on software design sessions. I sold my bmw after 15 years of multiple bmws because their design is so poor for maintenance. I had cooling system problems that required hours of labor to get to just to replace a plastic part that cost $5 where an aluminum one would cost $7. It seems to me that bmw was designing for best case scenarios where everything g…

>I had cooling system problems that required hours of labor to get to just to replace a plastic part that cost $5 where an aluminum one would cost $7. If the car has 10 places where the manufacturer saves 2 dollars, that is 20 dollars a car. At around 2.5 Million cars shipped each year that is 50 Million Euros each year profit for BMW. The entire car industry is extremely cost sensitive, especially right now, with so…

A car (especially ICE but even EVs) consists of tens of thousands of components. People like to point at things in cars and say "why did they save five cents there? And 10 cents here?", and the simple reason is if you bump all these components up one "quality level", if you will, that's thousands of bucks just in material costs. The twenty dollars of per-car savings are not profit, they're unit cost savings, which will contribute to profit, but also price. And margins in the car industry are rather tight, buyers are cost sensitive, it's not an industry where you save 10$ on parts and are able to pocket that, I don't think.
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