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What does this even mean? You don't want software updates? Or strictly only software updates that are 100% aligned with your wishes whatever they may be at the time?
I want it exactly as it is in Linux land. This is a solved problem. How are you so dumbfounded?
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People always say things like these, and I wish it were that way too. Maybe if history had gone a little differently. But what's the point of defining these standards now? Is the world where this is the reality still feasible? It seems nearly impossible, unless you're an extremely wealthy and influential individual. What I'm seeing is that we never will move to a world where a device that you bought is truly "yours"…
Ubuntu for android?
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> Any device that doesn't have DRM will never support a paid digital marketplace or paid content streaming. None of the attestation stuff actually works for that. For streamed content the pirates only need one person to crack one device and then everything is on The Pirate Bay. Notice that it's all still available in such places despite the DRM and the people still paying for it are still paying for it despite its av…
> For streamed content the pirates only need one person to crack one device Thus the push for locked devices. > What it's nominally supposed to be for is so that a server can verify that the device is approved before providing some service. Which is why Neflix wont work with a device failing Play Protect. > The first is what makes it useless for copy protection Not if you require a locked device to download the artif…
> Which is why Neflix wont work with a device failing Play Protect.
And yet the pirates still have all of their content, because DRM doesn't work. One pirate cracks one locked device and can download their entire catalog with it. That one pirate needs to know something about computer security and side channel attacks etc., but none of the people downloading it do.
It can't prevent the first copy from being made because the devices are only secure against amateurs but not professionals, and it can't prevent any of the subsequent copies because the pirates aren't using any DRM to distribute them.
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> For streamed content the pirates only need one person to crack one device Thus the push for locked devices. > What it's nominally supposed to be for is so that a server can verify that the device is approved before providing some service. Which is why Neflix wont work with a device failing Play Protect. > The first is what makes it useless for copy protection Not if you require a locked device to download the artif…
I feel like you're not understanding the problem: > Which is why Neflix wont work with a device failing Play Protect. And yet the pirates still have all of their content, because DRM doesn't work. One pirate cracks one locked device and can download their entire catalog with it. That one pirate needs to know something about computer security and side channel attacks etc., but none of the people downloading it do. It…
I know and I'm saying what we are seeing is a push to plug all those holes. iOS, Android, macOS SIP, Windows Secure Boot. All root-of-trust systems, so that only operating systems that prevent copying can download it in the first place.
Those pirates aren't using locked devices to copy content. They are using devices lacking copy protection.
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I feel like you're not understanding the problem: > Which is why Neflix wont work with a device failing Play Protect. And yet the pirates still have all of their content, because DRM doesn't work. One pirate cracks one locked device and can download their entire catalog with it. That one pirate needs to know something about computer security and side channel attacks etc., but none of the people downloading it do. It…
> And yet the pirates still have all of their content, because DRM doesn't work. One pirate cracks one locked device and can download their entire catalog with it. I know and I'm saying what we are seeing is a push to plug all those holes. iOS, Android, macOS SIP, Windows Secure Boot. All root-of-trust systems, so that only operating systems that prevent copying can download it in the first place. Those pirates aren'…
Despite all the bad moves, one of the reasons why I use android and not iPhone is installing apps from places like fdroid. If this stops, it fundamentally disallows me to have the privacy that Apple app store can't provide. The amount of garbage apps in play store is horrible. I don't try out any new apps from there cos of this. So I will just switch to iPhone. Already degoogled for pretty much most things. This will…
Instead it would be great if you join the fight against Google (and Apple) by using FOSS and independent distributions like GrapheneOS. It is the most secure and private option we have today. Most apps work as it is except a few those who purposefully use Google Play Integrity API to block independent platforms.
GrapheneOS has official production support for the following devices:
Pixel 9a (tegu)
Pixel 9 Pro Fold (comet)
Pixel 9 Pro XL (komodo)
Pixel 9 Pro (caiman)
Pixel 9 (tokay)
Pixel 8a (akita)
Pixel 8 Pro (husky)
Pixel 8 (shiba)
Pixel Fold (felix)
Pixel Tablet (tangorpro)
Pixel 7a (lynx)
Pixel 7 Pro (cheetah)
Pixel 7 (panther)
Pixel 6a (bluejay)
Pixel 6 Pro (raven)
Pixel 6 (oriole)You can't? THEN YOU DON'T OWN YOUR PHONE.
Simple as that.
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well, we need a platform competitor like Huawei doing for the past years but Open Ecosystem/Platform which is likely never happen tbh, since the amount of resources that required is a lot and would need monetization which would end up like at position like this
> well, we need a platform competitor like Huawei You mean, GNU/Linux phones, Librem 5 and Pinephone?
not yet to diminish them who is build these Amazing tools/devices but I need to see it yet in real life
hell even if you want to buy them, they literally often stock out in certain areas
and we not counting technical expertise to operate the devices
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No, that adb command is how you test install things. They wouldn't want to force public uploads to Play just to test.
They could go the apple way and sign an annoyingly shortlived cert.
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> I don't think software is ever finished. Back when it came on physical media, it was very much finished. Needing an update to fix a critical bug or a UX issue was a very costly problem to have, both in money and in reputation. Users had to be convinced to buy and install major updates, instead of being strong-armed into it. Staying on an older version was easier, and in case of operating systems, much more widely a…
> Back when it came on physical media, it was very much finished. That's also not true and I think you're not reading my point fairly. Back when software came on physical media we still had patches. We had patches that came through the internet and we had patches that came through physical media. The latter making it harder to patch. It's a great situation when a bug is discovered and it is hard to patch. You're fant…
Did you live at a time where Internet was not a thing?
I remember very clearly buying software on physical media and never, ever "receiving" a single patch. I don't even know how that would have looked... "buy this floppy disk, it's a patch for a bug in the other floppy disk you bought recently"?
I remember being able to buy "the next version", though. But the expectation was that I was buying a "finished" version, not something unfinished that required me to buy all the next versions.