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Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by Hikikomori » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 9:58 PM UTC

kapone wrote: post #362

bena wrote: post #306

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Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them. Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. And from what we've seen, he was right to do so. Although, they've been angling to declare his pardons void so they can go after whoever they wish.

> Yeah, because he was guarding them against the current administration abusing the Justice Department to go after them Ha ha. They (democrats overall) need to look inwards for that. > Same reason he pardoned Fauci and others. Fauci screwed up our country so bad, it aint even funny. The fact that he needed a PRE-EMPTIVE (i.e. he wasn't even accused of anything at the time) pardon says it all. And the fact that Biden…

>Trump isn't perfect. Far from it. He's got major flaws, both in character and execution. However, name any major policy initiative that he's undertaken that is bad for the "country". As a whole.

They're usually not that bad for his billionaire grifter buddies, I'll give you that.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by timeon » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 9:58 PM UTC

netfortius wrote: post #397

Unpopular opinion: America needs/ed this. They nerve truly believed that a Ceaușescu, Hitler, Stalin, Mao were possible in the US. Maybe one or two generations will suffer, but this is a required lesson, for the future maturity of the nation, long term. Assuming they come out in one piece at the other end, of course.

This is not rhetorical question: did accelerationism ever worked?

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by _jsmh » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 9:59 PM UTC

Alifatisk wrote: post #188

I cannot comprehend how half of Americans are fine with this corrupt leader? He even does this bizarre maffia like deals out in the open for his own interest, that's how confident he is no one will say anything The message is clear from his circus administration, you can do anything as long as you bribe them

I want to understand what you said.

You assumed the leader is corrupt, possibly assumed the leader has bad intentions, and that the world can't possibly be more complex than these assumptions. Assumed the leader made this choice instead of a team behind him.

Then presented a generality. Possibly assumed he doesn't know more than you and "everyone who won't say anything".

Called an entire administration a circus. Another generality.

Suggested bribery without evidence.

How does one respond constructively to a comment like this?

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by ModernMech » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 9:59 PM UTC

kbd wrote: post #366

thinkharderdev wrote: post #322

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Trump is definitely the most egregious by a very wide margin, but the pardon power has been abused by every President in my lifetime. It's a truly insane feature of our constitution that needs to be changed.

It doesn't really matter who is more egregious, but IMO a country's leader pardoning his own family members is about as banana republic as it gets.

> IMO a country's leader pardoning his own family members is about as banana republic as it gets.

That is until you see what's currently happening, the President personally directing the DOJ to arrest his political enemies, of which Biden and his family are considered to be primary antagonists (remember they labelled them the "Biden crime family" and chanted "lock them up"). That is the most banana republic as it gets, so how is preemptively defending against that behavior out of bounds?

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by strangattractor » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 9:59 PM UTC

guywithahat wrote: post #388

dboreham wrote: post #241

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Agree. It seems to have (never had?) any positive benefit.

I mean there are lots of people arrested on effectively political charges, and it's good to be able to reflect on it years later and get them out of jail. I'm not convinced Changpeng Zhao's charges would have ever been brought against him if the Biden admin didn't go so hard against crypto, I'm happy to see him pardoned. Hopefully next Trump can get whistle blowers like John Kiriachou

Doesn't necessarily have to be left up to the whims of one person though.

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Post by Capricorn2481 » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 10:00 PM UTC

inglor_cz wrote: post #372

taurath wrote: post #293

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Truly don’t understand the equivalence here.

Equivalence may be a strong word, but pardoning your kids is classical Borgia shit straight out of the worst times of Italian Renaissance, and most people would condemn it if it was done by leader of some Central American Ruritania. Of course, once it is done by a president representing the party you (generic you) feel affiliated with, the double standards inevitably kick in.

> Of course, once it is done by a president representing the party you (generic you) feel affiliated with, the double standards inevitably kick in.

Less that, more we're all aware of what Trump campaigned on and what he promised to do to Biden's entire family. And we're disheartened that there's cultists (not you) trying to convince us that we should let our families suffer if dear leader demands it.

I don't know these people, I don't have a strong feeling if any of them go to jail for something they did, because I'm not in a personality cult. But I care a lot more if people are going to jail just because a more corrupt person got the keys to everything. Turns out, those fears were valid, and I'm increasingly alarmed that there's still so much vitriol towards Biden pardoning a checks notes gun charge, than there is for the blatantly corrupt shit we see every day.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by tastyfreeze » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 10:02 PM UTC

naijaboiler wrote: post #443

HDThoreaun wrote: post #285

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Trump is the most openly corrupt leader in american history. How can you vote for him while claiming to be against corruption?

Because he’s giving them the one thing they really care about “white nationalism” They will overlook everything else he does. Everything

Just stop with that BS. I guarantee that "white nationalism" was the farthest thing from the majority of Trump voters mind. If you come out of the gate saying all Trump supporters are racist most people are just going to roll their eyes at you at walk away. You have already told them you dont like them and that you will most likely not even entertain their reasons as acceptable.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by stevage » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 10:02 PM UTC

guywithahat wrote: post #388

dboreham wrote: post #241

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Agree. It seems to have (never had?) any positive benefit.

I mean there are lots of people arrested on effectively political charges, and it's good to be able to reflect on it years later and get them out of jail. I'm not convinced Changpeng Zhao's charges would have ever been brought against him if the Biden admin didn't go so hard against crypto, I'm happy to see him pardoned. Hopefully next Trump can get whistle blowers like John Kiriachou

Trump essentially defines all convictions that he doesn't agree with as political charges though.

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by whattheheckheck » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 10:02 PM UTC

abbycurtis33 wrote: post #474

adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #249

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Do you have a complete list because thats literally what trump is doing. In no way shape or form is any past president comparable to the depravity and recklessness of trump its not even close. If you say its close you are so misinformed or ignorant or willfully evil. Seriously crypto scams, open bribery from kushner and the saudis, the Qatar jet, the gold card visas for the cartel family... the list of insane actions goes on and on and its so depressing to see anyone fall for it or not be seething in rage because this country will not make it if this family and the people driving project 2025 are not brought to justice

Re: Trump pardons convicted Binance founder

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Post by munk-a » Thu, Oct 23, 2025, 10:03 PM UTC

IAmGraydon wrote: post #452

kbd wrote: post #233

The pardon power has been so abused these past few administrations that it's clear there should be constitutional changes in the pardon power, either congressional review, or strip it altogether.

The power to pardon needs to be removed all together. All it does is show that the President overrides the department of justice. How anyone ever thought this should be a thing, I have no idea.

I think a congressional pardon power to allow national leniency on previously accepted sentences that are now viewed as unjust might be worth holding onto. It being such a casual presidential power has made it ripe for corruption for a long time but I would weigh that with civil rights era pardons for sham trials - I think we do still need a national sanity check relief valve for local injustices.

And the dysfunction of congress probably works in our favor here since pardons should be exceptional - not routine. A routine pardon is just a demonstration of the justice department failing at a systemic level.