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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by ktosobcy »

heavyset_go wrote: post #441
ktosobcy wrote: post #422

I like the rise of ARM… first AMD and then "PC world" followed suite with Snapdragon. With the latest Elite I think that my next machine (after MPB M1, which is still perfectly fine machine in 2025) will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... I'm fedup with Apples more and more stupid changes and limitations :/ (I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe!) For me cool and s…

> will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... Before you do that really research the exact model you plan on buying, and how much support it truly has in Linux. Qualcomm has not exactly lived up to their own hyped intentions of good support on Linux, and that provides a foundation of sand for hardware vendors to further drop the ball on when it comes to Linux support. Apparently, some mode…

Thanks for the heads up. In general Linux hardware support was for a long time hit-or-miss so I kinda expected that. On the other hand I said that with the hope that the things will improve significantly by the time I will be upgrading the machine (which is still years away; I stayed with previous MBP for 8 years so I still have like 3-5 years to go :D)

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by ktosobcy »

mort96 wrote: post #464
heavyset_go wrote: post #441

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> will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... Before you do that really research the exact model you plan on buying, and how much support it truly has in Linux. Qualcomm has not exactly lived up to their own hyped intentions of good support on Linux, and that provides a foundation of sand for hardware vendors to further drop the ball on when it comes to Linux support. Apparently, some mode…

100%. A huge issue with the ARM ecosystem is that there's no widely adopted UEFI-like standard, so there's no runtime discovery of hardware configuration and things like the booting process and partitioning are extremely different between different machines. You pretty much need a Linux image built specifically for the particular hardware, unlike in the x86 world where you just need a Linux image which can boot using…

Are there any plans to have similar solution?

Is this the reason, why the Android echosystem is so abysmal when it comes to hardware driver support?

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by ktosobcy »

chk84us wrote: post #432
ktosobcy wrote: post #422

I like the rise of ARM… first AMD and then "PC world" followed suite with Snapdragon. With the latest Elite I think that my next machine (after MPB M1, which is still perfectly fine machine in 2025) will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... I'm fedup with Apples more and more stupid changes and limitations :/ (I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe!) For me cool and s…

> I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe Is there even a way to automatically upgrade to a major macOS version? Automatic update settings are only for minor/patch and security responses.

Hmm... that may be true. I just disabled everything in preferences to avoid it completely...

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by detourdog »

ethanwillis wrote: post #323
detourdog wrote: post #212

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This a pretty insulting comment. I’m sure ther is better word then discerning.

I was actually trying to be more neutral :\ than saying something like for consumers with taste the point i'm trying to make is that "apple consumers" are more critical.

I understand. I have been using a Mac since 1984 and I actually like glass more than the flat aesthetic we have been through. I see it as closer to Aqua and a subtler skeuomorphic effort. I have reported to Apple some of the problems liquid glass has. I see Liquid glass as better than what we had before.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by rafaelmn »

saagarjha wrote: post #400
rafaelmn wrote: post #396

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Not really - I bought an M4 Air to check how my dev ecosystem (.NET) would run on the ARM/Apple silicon and while its usable its noticeably slowing me down in my day to day with Rider. I will be getting the M5 pro because the performance is a bottleneck for me (even incremental builds take a while). Also I regret not getting at least 30gb ram (Amazon only had 24gb configurations) because with docker running I constan…

Have you checked what is slowing it down?

Just everything syphoning down RAM, standard office/desktop stuff like Slack, Chrome, Mail, Calendar, Messages, a few IMs will easily eat up over 12 GB, then add in VSCode, Rider, Docker (which I cap at 2 GB ram) - I am swapping gigabytes when I have multiple tools running.

But even when I kill all processes and just run a build you can see lack of cores slow the build down enough that it is noticeable. Investing into a 48gb ram/pro version will definitely be worth it for the improved experience, I can get by in the meantime by working more on my desktop workstation.

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Post by wing-_-nuts »

School-Cotton wrote: post #262
wing-_-nuts wrote: post #96

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In all honesty, I don't think cpu has ever been a huge limitation for me outside of gaming. The biggest bottlenecks for me have always been disk speed and memory. My soon-to-be decade old xps 13 gets on well enough, except it only has 8gb of soldered on ram. That absolutely is a bottle neck for me.

I guess you don’t work in C++ or Rust. Compile times are a bitch and they’re completely CPU-bound.

Bear in mind, my personal laptop rarely compiles massive projects. I think the last large thing I compiled by hand was wine, and it's been a while since I've done that. Most of the coding done on that laptop are small toy applications to test a language feature. It also helps that golang is lightning fast when it comes to compile times.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by rafaelmn »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #476
saagarjha wrote: post #400

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Have you checked what is slowing it down?

I wonder if it’s Docker as it runs in a VM on macOS.

You can control how much RAM gets allocated to the Docker VM and I keep that at 2GB which is not that much. I am not running stuff inside docker locally just using it to boot up stuff like pg/rmq/redis

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Post by runjake »

AlphaAndOmega0 wrote: post #277
runjake wrote: post #70

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Questions for you: 1. If you don't know what to do with it, why did you buy it? 2. If you wanted a general purpose computer, why did you buy an iPad? 3. Which iPadOS limitations are particularly painful for you?

1. I do know what to do with it. I take notes, a lot, in my work as a doctor. That's been the case since I owned an iPad Air from 2020, which I replaced with an 11 inch M1 iPad Pro (which broke), and I finally caved and bought a 13" iPad Pro to replace it. I ended up getting the M4 model because there just didn't seem to be older ones reasonably available. Even the M1 was more than fast enough for the overwhelming ma…

Thanks for the response. I'd say you are a key target audience for the iPad Pro. I see most of your points. The only point I can't grok is "the CPU is too good", but I suppose that is more about lamenting the lack of Mac-like functionality than the CPU.

All I can say is: stay tuned.

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Post by Rohansi »

criddell wrote: post #468
Rohansi wrote: post #228

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Most of those SKUs are component swaps. A proper passively cooled laptop would require a completely different chassis design to act as an extension of the heatsink. I bought a MacBook Air because it was cheaper and met my needs. Being passively cooled was just a nice bonus.

As someone who has been buying Think Pads for the past 20 years, Lenovo needs to spend more time working on thermals anyway. If I don't power my laptop down before stuffing it in my backpack, I'll have a hot, almost dead machine by the time I get to my destination.

I wonder how much of that issue is related to crappy lid open sensors. AFAIK most of them work by sensing a magnet placed in the frame. MacBooks don't do this so your laptop doesn't sleep randomly when a magnet passes over your laptop. It's dumb that they use a single magnet instead of one on each side, but it sure is cheaper.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by heavyset_go »

ktosobcy wrote: post #491
heavyset_go wrote: post #441

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> will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... Before you do that really research the exact model you plan on buying, and how much support it truly has in Linux. Qualcomm has not exactly lived up to their own hyped intentions of good support on Linux, and that provides a foundation of sand for hardware vendors to further drop the ball on when it comes to Linux support. Apparently, some mode…

Thanks for the heads up. In general Linux hardware support was for a long time hit-or-miss so I kinda expected that. On the other hand I said that with the hope that the things will improve significantly by the time I will be upgrading the machine (which is still years away; I stayed with previous MBP for 8 years so I still have like 3-5 years to go :D)

These days x86 PCs are well supported on Linux, the kinds of problems you can encounter with ARM boards can be unique and just don't exist on PCs for a variety of reasons.
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