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ABC yanks Jimmy Kimmel’s show ‘indefinitely’ after threat from FCC chair

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Caves of steel by Asimov my favorite recently. Super easy and enjoyable read.

Do not stop here! Keep going the trilogy there is great and all of it within the foundation universe, incredible stuff. I wish I had more people to discuss it with

Reading Hyperion rn, which is wild, but planning to finish the caves after!

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The summary at the top of the page says > ABC said it was pulling the “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” show off the air “indefinitely” after controversial comments by its host about the slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. but the article says the following, which is entirely different: > “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everyth…

I think everybody is (reasonably) confused by the use of the words "anything other than". It's usually used in phrases that express the speaker's opinion to the opposite ("as if this is anything other than performative" means "this is performative"). Based on the clip, it sounds like Kimmel unfortunately used it literally: "trying to portray [him] as anything other than...", as in, "they're jumping the gun on his portrayal and blame placement", and not, "I know which team he's on." I could be wrong, but that's what it sounds like in context (and would make more sense too).

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No, that's the reason to hate Kirk, not a reason to shoot him. What in his upbringing led him to believe the way to handle the situation was with violence is unclear.

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The school shooting that Mr. Kirk lost his life to is not, "left wing violence". Unless you want to submit that most school shootings are "right wing violence" if the shooter hated public education.

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The right, has for the past decade or so taken a moral high ground with regards to cancelation. Seems that now they've adopted a "turnaround is fair play" mentality.

What utter garbage. It’s not the left canceling Starbucks at Christmas time, or any company that dares sport a rainbow in any marketing whatsoever.

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You were the one arguing “the first amendment doesn’t protect again consequences”. What changed?

You right-thinking guys convinced me: cancel culture is bad. What I don't understand is why it's ok if the FCC commissioner pushed for it. That does seem like a first amendment deal.

The government enforcing laws on the books isn’t cancel culture?

I mean if laws weren’t broken, and it was pressure alone because of personal views, then yeah that’s wrong.

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I’m at a loss of what to watch as far as television goes in the US, between the government threatening to intervene in content, corporations that own television networks with little regard for journalistic integrity, and PBS downsizing. I’m pretty much exclusively watching NHK from Japan through a Roku app.

You don't need dinosaur US mainstream media PBS, CNN or MSNBCNow. There's: Last Week Tonight, Thom Hartmann, Democracy Now, Keith Olbermann, and many more.

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This is one of those interminable sprawling message board arguments that has a really simple resolution nobody wants to accept, which is that commitment to free expression and "right/left" are mostly orthogonal, and both the right and the left weaponize commitment to free expression when it makes sense for them to.

i get what you're saying but "the left" has basically zero political power in the united states. it never has. the closest we ever were was with FDR but i wouldn't consider a leader who operated concentration camps to be leftist by any stretch. we have a right wing and then a righter wing. bernie sanders is an anomaly, elizabeth warren is just left of center, and i can't think of too many other current politicians at…

> but i wouldn't consider a leader who operated concentration camps to be leftist by any stretch.

I consider myself a leftist, but it's a bit naive to think that "this bad, horrible thing" must be associated only with right-leaning ideology. Leftists can do bad, horrible things just as much as right-wing folks can. "Putting people in concentration camps" isn't a right-wing or left-wing thing, it's a totalitarian/anti-human-rights thing. We can argue that, as of late, right-wing people seem to have more of an appetite for that sort of thing, and I'd probably agree, but that doesn't make concentration camps a "right-wing thing".

I would absolutely consider FDR to be one of the most (if not the most) leftist presidents the US has had. His putting people in concentration camps doesn't change that; it just makes him a racist piece of shit, like so many others of his time (not that the time period excuses it).

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For reference, Sinclair is now demanding that Jimmy Kimmel not only apologize to Charlie Kirk's family but also make a donation to said family as well as a meaningful donation to TPUSA. You could not get more blatantly corrupt than this.

Apart from the principle of the thing - a donation to his family? I’m sure they’re struggling, what with his net worth being estimated at a nearby-impoverished $15-20M…

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I’m at a loss of what to watch as far as television goes in the US, between the government threatening to intervene in content, corporations that own television networks with little regard for journalistic integrity, and PBS downsizing. I’m pretty much exclusively watching NHK from Japan through a Roku app.

So, hear me out, books are pretty great! Lots of people say things like "I know I should read, but it's this whole thing ..." and then you find out they've been stuck on page 3 of Wuthering Heights for forty years, because someone convinced them they ought to be reading that, and it's haunted them from their night-stand ever since. Don't let anyone tell you what to read, pick up something that sounds fun to you, and…

It is so true. Pick up any well-regarded book even quick short ones and the depth of information, insight, and connection you get put most online things to shame. Like it’s not even close compared to good blogs, podcasts, and videos…books run circles around them.
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