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This is like claiming that you didn't key someone's car, because the scratches weren't signed with your signature. No one doxxing others in that particular clique is going to do it from anything other than a burner account.
Okay, but now that's an unfalsifiable statement. What makes you think the burners are tied to the well-known accounts?
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Re: Wikipedia survives while the rest of the internet breaks
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The fact that you jumped to "eugenics" proves my point.
The fact that you can't correctly identify debunked claims about a connection between race and IQ as inherently eugenicist talking points and instead quickly resorted to obfuscation proves my point.
Re: Wikipedia survives while the rest of the internet breaks
#494There has been this trend recently of calling Wikipedia the last good thing on the internet. And i agree its great, i spend an inordinate amount of my time on Wikimedia related things. But i think there is a danger here with all these articles putting Wikipedia too much on a pedestal. It isn't perfect. It isn't perfectly neutral or perfectly reliable. It has flaws. The true best part of Wikipedia is that its a work i…
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> Why did you get permanently banned. Ta bu shi da yu created the citation needed template: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Citation... (I remember that account name from Kuro5hin. Much respect!) He edited under several accounts, all of which are permabanned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Aussie_Article_Writer Why? Because he'd earned an interaction ban (IBAN) from engaging with BrownHairedGi…
Curious - and do you know what I got the one-way IBAN for? The answer is: nothing. I can assure you, I was not doing the instigating. Though I did comment on her RFA, not realising it was not yet submitted. There was never an appropriate review of my one-way IBAN, and nobody has been able to explain why this was done given her vile and ongoing obnoxious comments about myself. unless you consider her accusing me of "w…
Yes: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=980273295#Proposa...
Your fellow Wikipedians had had enough of your and BHG's squabbling, and they decided it was primarily you needling her. And yes, even in the brief exchange in the thread there, BHG comes off like an absolute prick. In no way does BHG's awful behaviour allow you to excuse your own.
See also your own words "Upon reflection, that was indeed a needlessly inflammatory comment I made. I apologise for that."
Perhaps you can accept you've made more than one needlessly inflammatory comment towards BHG?
* Here you made a snide little comment exclusively about BHG where she'd see it: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Adminis...
* Here you accused her of gaslighting: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Wi...
* BHG then made a thuggish and threatening post on your user page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Chris.s...
BHG later characterised this like "oh but he was trolling me and I merely asked him one time on his talk page to stop (which is allowed)", which is bollocks because the "one time" is a long, angry screed written in a menacing tone. But if you want to go no-contact with someone who's clearly bad for you to be around, go no-contact -- don't ever mention them again. Don't interact directly with them. Don't comment on things they're involved in. If you're in something and they join in, politely recuse yourself.
That you didn't, is the reason why your fellow Wikipedians decided to issue the one-way IBAN.
> Also: I was not doing any editing of Brisbane categories
OK, that was not quite right. What happened was: BHG relisted a bunch of small categories for Australian city suburbs (starting with Brisbane), then you commented with unhelpful snark on several of them, and then deleted all your commentary minutes later: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Categor...
That's a classic tactic for needling someone watching the page, then playing innocent afterwards, as I'm sure you know. Bonus points for referring to her as "the nominator" rather than by name, for a further level of deniability.
> I can assure you, I was not doing the instigating
Per Beeblebrox: https://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=11595&p...
"AAW was actually doing good, quiet work for some time. Then he decided to let the committee know that it was him and he was doing a "clean start" and of course our only option was to inform him that he was not qualified for a clean start because of the interaction ban with BHG."
"And then he did the only thing he was not allowed to do, and did it like six times in a row on several different pages (and there was a seventh time that nobody had noticed on his user page like a week earlier). I don't think there's any coming back from that, and ArbCom has taken over the block"
If you had simply not interacted with BHG after coming back, until the point that she was finally banned, you'd still be editing today. Instead, you got perma'd for violating your IBAN with impunity. And honestly, would you really want to have your IBAN reviewed, maybe even removed... for what? So that you could go back to needling her, and having her bully you right back? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THAT? IT'S VERY CLEAR NO GOOD COULD EVER COME OF THAT.
> I have not edited Wikipedia since I was banned.
I never said you did. I was explaining to the other HN user how Wikipedians know that banned users have come back under a sockpuppet. Essentially, it is very obvious when the banned users come back and start doing the same things they were banned for, which decloaks them.
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My thesis is that Wikipedianon's comment implies Wikipedia editors (specifically, "well-known" editors and "admins") doxx each other all the time, but that's hilariously wrong. Doxxing mostly comes from assholes outside the community, such as those who post on Wikipediocracy. Yes, on-project doxxing gets OS'd but it also results in discussions and bans which can be reviewed. And from those you can easily determine th…
This is like claiming that you didn't key someone's car, because the scratches weren't signed with your signature. No one doxxing others in that particular clique is going to do it from anything other than a burner account.
This is incorrect.
many do it with accounts linked to their real onwiki profiles. jps is an example and I provided a link to unambiguous doxxing:
https://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=14172
They've been doing it since 2016 when they started an" alt-right identification thread":
https://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=8031
Others use accounts linked to their onwiki personas to ask for doxx. e.g. AndyTheGrump is a well-known user who posts in the "alt-right identification thread" about someone they dislike and getting a quick response. Here's AndyTheGrump asking for doxx on a user named "BlueGraf".
https://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=8031&p...
Quickly followed up with that individuals full name and employment.
And many editors/admins participate in those doxxing threads to gawk or have fun under their real usernames.