Home Depot sued for 'secretly' using facial recognition at self-checkouts

Post by mothballed » Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 7:10 PM UTC

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Are you saying you would continue shopping in a store where you regularly saw violence against people who might be thieves, on the assumption you’d never be mistaken for one?

No, I’m saying that I would prefer to shop at a store that uses shopkeeper’s privilege to detain thieves using reasonable force. The legal limits are very clear and simply enacting violence “against people who might be thieves” is not within them.

Post by adamrezich » Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 7:17 PM UTC

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When my mom attended the same high school I graduated from, in the 70s, kids who were hunters would leave firearms in racks on the back of their pickup trucks in the high school parking lot. Not only did said firearms never once get stolen or used to shoot anyone, but, such a thing was simply unthinkable. When I attended the same high school in the 00s, we once were put on a district-wide lockdown because some kid at…

I remember the 70s and my experience was nothing like your mom's. Population centers have always been full of petty crime; rural places are still pretty free from crime. You can still move to plenty of towns with population The one big difference though is today we have school shootings, so folks are pretty humorless about guns near schools. I'd love to hear your ideas for how to solve that, because they keep happeni…

Post by wizzwizz4 » Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 7:27 PM UTC

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COVID is down from its peak, as I understand. It's just very much not gone, and by no means less nasty. We had the opportunity to wipe it out with a short, synchronised global lockdown, and we squandered it, and now it's like plague.

A short global lockdown? China pursued the zero COVID policy for two years. Even highly restrictive measures weren't enough to stem it. COVID is no longer a novel virus and its deadliness has vastly decreased. Yes it is by any reasonable understanding of the phrase, COVID is "less nasty". At its peak, 20,000 people were dying each week due to COVID in the US. Presently that figure sits around 200.

Post by margalabargala » Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 7:30 PM UTC

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The total options for dictionary terms for "recognition" does not mean that you can select any among them, decide that that's what "facial recognition" means, and expect anyone else to understand you. "Facial recognition" refers to seeing a face and knowing whose face it is. It's the difference between "that's a face" and "that's my friend Jeff". That some constituent word has some other definition is not relevant. W…

Sure it does. I can use words any way I want. But there are agreed upon legal definitions and there are agreed upon industry terms/definition; you are talking about one of them (which sounds like industry not legal). If there's no legal definition, that means it's not defined and the court could interpret it any way they choose. Edit: it seems the law defined the term "facial recognition" so that was the only answer…

Post by nobody9999 » Thu, Aug 21, 2025, 7:31 PM UTC

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>> And since every illegal immigrant is already a criminal... >Not to be pedantic, but by definition it is, isn’t it? It is not[0]. Being present in the US without legal status is a civil infraction and not a crime. Unlawful entry is a criminal act however. That said, the vast majority of undocumented folks entered the US legally and overstayed their visas. Which is a civil issue, not a criminal one. Those who made a…

Entering the United States without proper documentation, such as a passport or visa, is considered a federal crime under 8 U.S.C. § 1325. This statute criminalizes unauthorized entry, including entering at unauthorized times or places, evading inspection, or misrepresentation to gain entry.

   To be clear, the most common crime associated with illegal immigration is 
   likely improper entry. Under federal criminal law, it is misdemeanor for an 
   alien (i.e., a non-citizen) to:

       Enter or attempt to enter the United States at any time or place other 
       than designated by immigration officers;
       
       Elude examination or inspection by immigration officers; or
       Attempt to enter or obtain entry to the United States by willfully 
       concealing, falsifying, or misrepresenting material facts.

   The punishment under this federal law is no more than six months of 
   incarceration and up to $250 in civil penalties for each illegal entry. These
   acts of improper entry -- including the mythic "border jumping" -- are 
   criminal acts associated with illegally immigrating to the United States.
 
   Like all other criminal charges in the United States, improper entry must be 
   proven beyond a reasonable doubt in order to convict.

   Being present in the US without legal status is a civil infraction and not a 
   crime. Unlawful entry is a criminal act however.

   That said, the vast majority of undocumented folks entered the US Legally and 
   overstayed their visas. Which is a civil issue, not a criminal one.