Well in my case it is because I'm a highly educated individual who's been in the professional sector for 20 years - I know I'm always right. I do worry it's stroking the ego of those who do NOT deserve it or are NOT actually right
Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
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Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#492Earlier quoted context omitted.
But... cows do drink cow milk, that's why it exists.
You’re likely thinking of calves. Cows (though admittedly ambiguous! But usually adult female bovines) do not drink milk. It’s insidious isn’t it?
Colloquially, "cow" can mean a calf, bull, or (female adult) cow.
It may not be technically correct, but so what? Stop being unnecessarily pedantic.
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#493Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess a more accessible version would be toast… what do you put in a toaster?
Here's one for you: A funny riddle is a j-o-k-e that sounds like “joke”. You sit in the tub for an s-o-a-k that sounds like “soak”. So how do you spell the white of an egg? // All of these prove humans are subject to "context priming".
My brain said "y" and then I caught myself. Well done!
(I suppose my context was primed both by your brain-teaser, and also the fact that we've been talking about these sorts of things. If you'd said this to me out of the blue, I probably would have spelled out all of "yolk" and thought it was correct.)
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#494I've spent a lot of time trying to get LLM to generate things in a specific way, the biggest take away I have is, if you tell it "don't do xyz" it will always have in the back of its mind "do xyz" and any chance it gets it will take to "do xyz" When working on art projects, my trick is to specifically give all feedback constructively, carefully avoiding framing things in terms of the inverse or parts to remove.
Yes this is strikingly similar to humans, too. “Not” is kind of an abstract concept. Anyone who has ever trained a dog will understand.
I think its an english language thing (or language in general).
Someone above commented about using the word "Avoid" instead of "do not". "Not" obviously means you should do the opposite but the first word is still a verb telling you to take action.
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#495I've spent a lot of time trying to get LLM to generate things in a specific way, the biggest take away I have is, if you tell it "don't do xyz" it will always have in the back of its mind "do xyz" and any chance it gets it will take to "do xyz" When working on art projects, my trick is to specifically give all feedback constructively, carefully avoiding framing things in terms of the inverse or parts to remove.
'not X' just becomes 'X', as our memories fade..I wouldn't be surprised the context degradation is similar in LLMs.
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#496This is such a useful feature. I'm fairly well versed in cryptography. A lot of other people aren't, but they wish they were, so they ask their LLM to make some form of contribution. The result is high level gibberish. When I prod them about the mess, they have to turn to their LLM to deliver a plausibly sounding answer, and that always begins with "You are absolutely right that [thing I mentioned]". So then I don't…
ChatGPT opened with a "Nope" the other day. I'm so proud of it. https://chatgpt.com/share/6896258f-2cac-800c-b235-c433648bf4...
Claude Sonnet 4.0 didn't say "nope" to the same prompt but also didn't agree. It replied:
Actually, 24V control signals in HVAC are typically AC, not DC. Most residential and commercial HVAC systems use 24VAC for their control circuits. This 24VAC comes from a step-down transformer that reduces the standard line voltage (120V or 240V AC) down to 24VAC. The reasons for using AC include:
* Safety - Lower voltage reduces shock hazard
* Simplicity - Direct transformation from line voltage without need for rectification
* Cost - AC transformers are inexpensive and reliable
* Compatibility - Most traditional HVAC components (thermostats, contactors, relays, gas valves) are designed for 24VAC
However, you will find 24VDC in some applications:
* Modern digital/smart thermostats and controls
* Building automation systems (BAS)
* Some newer high-efficiency equipment
* Systems that need to interface with low-voltage DC electronics
But if you're working with a typical residential or light commercial HVAC system, assume 24VAC unless specifically noted otherwise. Always verify with a multimeter set to AC voltage when troubleshooting!
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#497This applies to so many AIs. I don't want a bubbly sycophant. I don't want a fake personality or an anime avatar. I just want a helpful assistant. I also don't get wanting to talk to an AI. Unless you are alone, that's going to be irritating for everyone else around.
I did as a test, Grok has "workspaces" and you can add a pre-prompt. So I made a Kamina (from Gurren Lagann) "worspace" so I could ask it silly questions and get back hyped up answers from "Kamina" it worked decently, my point is some tools out there let you "pre-prompt" based on your context. I believe Perplexity has this as well, they don't make it easy to find though.
Where is this setting in Perplexity?
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#498I've spent a lot of time trying to get LLM to generate things in a specific way, the biggest take away I have is, if you tell it "don't do xyz" it will always have in the back of its mind "do xyz" and any chance it gets it will take to "do xyz" When working on art projects, my trick is to specifically give all feedback constructively, carefully avoiding framing things in terms of the inverse or parts to remove.
Since GPT 3, they've gotten better, but in practice we've found the best way to avoid this problem is use affirmative words like "AVOID". YES: AVOID using negations. NO: DO NOT use negations. Weirdly, I see the DO NOT (with caps) form in system prompts from the LLM vendors which is how we know they are hiring too fast.* * Slight joke, it seems this is being heavily trained since 4.1-ish on OpenAI's side and since 3.5…
I think you are really onto something here - I bet this would also reliably work when talking to humans. Maybe this is not even specifically the fault of the AI but just a language thing in general.
An alternative test could be prompting the AI with "Avoid not" and then give it some kind of instruction. Theoretically this would be telling it to "do" the instruction but maybe sometimes it would end up "avoiding" it?
Now that I think about it the training data itself might very well be contaminated with this contradiction.......
I can think of a lot of forum posts where the OP stipulates "I do not want X" and then the very first reply recommends "X" !
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#499Avoid being argumentative can save energy, literally.
Re: Claude says “You're absolutely right!” about everything
#500Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes this is strikingly similar to humans, too. “Not” is kind of an abstract concept. Anyone who has ever trained a dog will understand.
I think its an english language thing (or language in general). Someone above commented about using the word "Avoid" instead of "do not". "Not" obviously means you should do the opposite but the first word is still a verb telling you to take action.
Not obviously means you should do the opposite
absolutely fascinating! can you elaborate on this?! I can’t put a context to this, like in what context does “not” means to do the opposite?!