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Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by SkyMarshal »

rs186 wrote: post #449
LorenDB wrote: post #60

> Encourage Open-Source and Open-Weight AI It's good to see this, especially since they acknowledge that open weights is not equal to open source.

Without providing actual support like money , the government saying they encourage open-* AI is no more meaningful than me saying the same thing. In fact, if you open the PDF file and navigate to that section, the content is barely relevant at all.

We're clearly in an era where the US Govt simply doesn't have enough money to throw at everything it wants to encourage, and needs to develop alternate means of incentivizing (or de-disincentivizing) those things. Sensible minimal regulation is one, there may be others. Time to get creative and resourceful.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by rtkwe »

cardamomo wrote: post #173
LorenDB wrote: post #60

> Encourage Open-Source and Open-Weight AI It's good to see this, especially since they acknowledge that open weights is not equal to open source.

I wonder how this intersects with their interest in "unbiased" models. Scare quotes because their concept of unbiased is scary.

Elon gives an unvarnished look at what they mean by 'unbiased' with respect to models. It's rewriting the training material or adding tool use (searching for Musk's tweets about topics before deciding it's output) to twist the output into ideological alignment.

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Post by Karawebnetwork »

timoth3y wrote: post #68

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

See:

> In the AI context, DEI includes the suppression or distortion of factual information about race or sex; manipulation of racial or sexual representation in model outputs; incorporation of concepts like critical race theory, transgenderism, unconscious bias, intersectionality, and systemic racism; and discrimination on the basis of race or sex. DEI displaces the commitment to truth in favor of preferred outcomes and, as recent history illustrates, poses an existential threat to reliable AI.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/prev...

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by _heimdall »

Frieren wrote: post #390
HSO wrote: post #334

after the pandemic, i see the pattern everywhere. newsflash: it doesnt matter what you "plan". you wont do it. because you cant. it´s called state incapacity. you´re institutionally incapable. prediction: nothing will follow from this except the low effort stuff (i.e. nothing but speeches and expenses)

> prediction: nothing will follow from this except the low effort stuff (i.e. nothing but speeches and expenses) Hundred million contracts with zero results. Conservative ideology is based on the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free meanwhile working class health expenses are a luxury and need to be cut down.

I don't see this as a problem of only one party or one end of the political spectrum.

Congress is full of politicians getting rich off of investments that almost certainly are informed by insider information.

During the pandemic we saw plenty of examples across the political spectrum of those in charge pushing harsh rules and lockdowns on the public while ignoring it themselves.

The list could go on, bit this isn't a conservative problem even if it may be more prevalent there.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by Karawebnetwork »

Important follow-up page to the US AI Action Page:

"PREVENTING WOKE AI IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/prev...

> In the AI context, DEI includes the suppression or distortion of factual information about race or sex; manipulation of racial or sexual representation in model outputs; incorporation of concepts like critical race theory, transgenderism, unconscious bias, intersectionality, and systemic racism; and discrimination on the basis of race or sex. DEI displaces the commitment to truth in favor of preferred outcomes and, as recent history illustrates, poses an existential threat to reliable AI.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by klabb3 »

roenxi wrote: post #461
Frieren wrote: post #390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> prediction: nothing will follow from this except the low effort stuff (i.e. nothing but speeches and expenses) Hundred million contracts with zero results. Conservative ideology is based on the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free meanwhile working class health expenses are a luxury and need to be cut down.

> Conservative ideology is based on the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free Any ideology that accepts taxation - practically all of them - believes this. It is impossible [0] to come up with a system that taxes one group without accepting that there is another group who are above them (who impose & enforce the taxes) and a group that is more deserving of the wealth (hence the…

> Any ideology that accepts taxation - practically all of them - believes [the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free].

Only if you anchor the baseline of "deserve" to private property rights and open markets. It's a fine foundation for civilization, but it's still "just like your opinion man". You could have different viewpoints of deserving, such as strongest-wins: "If I can steal 'your' stuff, I deserve it". This is how things work in nature. On the other extreme, you can say "everyone deserves exactly the same" (as in equal outcome). For the former, being imprisoned for theft is an intervention in their moral code, whereas for the latter, protecting free (in their view exploitative) markets is an intervention. Property rights fundamentalism is kind of radical centrism in the grand scheme of things.

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Post by yard2010 »

saubeidl wrote: post #367
timoth3y wrote: post #68

> Update Federal procurement guidelines to ensure that the government only contracts with frontier large language model (LLM) developers who ensure that their systems are objective and free from top-down ideological bias If foundation model companies want their government contracts renewed, they are going to have to make sure their AI output aligns with this administration's version of "truth".

Zizek would have a field day with this. > I already am eating from the trashcan all the time. The name of this trashcan is ideology. The material force of ideology - makes me not see what I'm effectively eating. It's not only our reality which enslaves us. The tragedy of our predicament - when we are within ideology, is that - when we think that we escape it into our dreams - at that point we are within ideology. htt…

Freedom hurts.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by Jensson »

Kbelicius wrote: post #407
Jensson wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No highly intelligent agent will do anything it is asked to do without being compensated in some way. That isn't true, people do things for others all the time any form of explicit or implicit compensation, they don't even believe in a God so not even that, they still help others for no gain. We can program an AI to be exactly like that, just being happy from helping others. But if you believe humans are all that s…

> We can program an AI to be exactly like that, just being happy from helping others. It seems that you missed the first sentence that GP wrote from which the one you quoted follows.

How is "being happy from helping others" not having emotions? To me happiness is an emotion, and deriving it from helping others is a perfectly normal reason to be happy even for humans.

Not all humans are perfectly selfish, so it should be possible to make an AI that isn't selfish either.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by kevindamm »

guappa wrote: post #464
somenameforme wrote: post #453

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea is to dominate AI in the same way that China dominates manufacturing. Even if things are open source that creates a major dependency, especially when the secret sauce is the training content - which is irreversibly hashed away into the weights.

I think the only way to dominate AI is to ban the use of any other AI…

There can be infrastructure dominance, too. It's difficult to get accurate figures for data center size across FAANG because each considers those figures to be business secrets but even a rough estimate puts the US data centers ahead of other countries or even regions.. the US has almost half of the world's data centers by count.

Transoceanic fiber runs become a very interesting resource, then.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by roenxi »

klabb3 wrote: post #496
roenxi wrote: post #461

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Conservative ideology is based on the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free Any ideology that accepts taxation - practically all of them - believes this. It is impossible [0] to come up with a system that taxes one group without accepting that there is another group who are above them (who impose & enforce the taxes) and a group that is more deserving of the wealth (hence the…

> Any ideology that accepts taxation - practically all of them - believes [the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free]. Only if you anchor the baseline of "deserve" to private property rights and open markets. It's a fine foundation for civilization, but it's still "just like your opinion man". You could have different viewpoints of deserving, such as strongest-wins: "If I can st…

>> Any ideology that accepts taxation - practically all of them - believes [the idea that certain people is just above others and they deserve more for free].

> Only if you anchor the baseline of "deserve" to private property rights and open markets.

Say someone has an ideology where they believe 70 year olds shouldn't have to work and need to be provided for by the community. What aspect of that would be anchored to private property and open markets? You could believe that and also believe in communal property and closed markets.

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