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Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by ryao »

chris11 wrote: post #311
alright2565 wrote: post #223

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Might help a little bit, by heatsinking the contacts better, but the problem is the contact resistance, not the wire resistance. The connector itself dangerously heats up. Or at least I think so? Was that a different 12VHPWR scandal?

I think it's both contact and wire resistance. It is technically possible to solder a new connector on. LTT did that in a video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzwrLLg1RR4

Uneven abnormal contact resistance is what causes the wires to become unbalanced, and then the remaining ones whose contacts have low resistance have huge currents pushed through them, causing them to overheat due to wire resistance. I am not sure if it is possible to have perfect contact resistance in all systems.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by Ygg2 »

throwawayqqq11 wrote: post #455
blibble wrote: post #432

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> HN has a very strong moderation team with years and years of history letting awkward (e.g. criticism of YC, YC companies) things stand. the attempt to steer direction is well hidden, but it is very much there with https://hnrankings.info/ you can see the correction applied, in real time the hidden bits applied to dissenting accounts? far less visible

Oh wow, i always had that gut feeling, but now i know. Stop killing games went from consistent rank 2 to 102 in an instant. And it all happend outside my timezone so i didnt even know it existed here.

Jesus Christ. That is a massive correction. I fear most of those EU petition numbers are probably bots, designed to sabotage it.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by j_timberlake »

elzbardico wrote: post #475
j_timberlake wrote: post #448

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Literally every single anti-AI comment I see on this site uses a form of the word "hype". You cannot make an actual objective argument against the AI-wave predictions, so you use the word hype and pretend that's a real argument and not just ranting.

I work with AI, I consider generative AI an incredible tool in our arsenal of computing things. But, in my opinion, the public expectations in my opinion are clearly exaggerated and sometimes even dangerous as we ran the risk of throwing the baby with the bathwater when some ideas/marketing/vc people ideas become not realizable in the concrete world. Why, having this outlook, I should be banned of using the very usef…

Your post doesn't contain a single prediction of a problem that will occur, dangerous or otherwise, just some vague reference to "the baby might get thrown out with the bathwater". This is exactly what I'm talking about, you just talk around the issue without naming anything specific, because you don't have anything. If you did, you'd state it.

Meanwhile the AI companies continue to produce new SotA models yearly, sometimes quarterly, meaning the evidence that you're just completely wrong never stops increasing.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by rollcat »

bob1029 wrote: post #115
neuroelectron wrote: post #42

Seems a bit calculated and agreed across the industry. What can really make sense of Microsoft's acquisitions and ruining of billion dollar IPs? It's a manufactured collapse of the gaming industry. They want to centralize control of the market and make it a service based (rent seeking) sector. I'm not saying they all got together and decided this together but their wonks are probably all saying the same thing. The ma…

I think the reason you see things like Blizzard killing off Overwatch 1 is because the Lindy effect applies in gaming as well. Some things are so sticky and preferred that you have to commit atrocities to remove them from use. From a supply/demand perspective, if all of your customers are still getting high on the 5 (or 20) year old supply, launching a new title in the same space isn't going to work. There are not an…

> Launching a game like [...] Starcraft 2

They can't even keep the lights on for SC2.

We [the community] have been designing our own balance patches for the past five years; and our own ladder maps since +/- day 1 - all Blizzard was to do since 2020 was to press the "deploy" button, and they f-ed it up several times anyway.

The news of the year so far is that someone has been exploiting a remote hole to upload some seriously disturbing stuff to the arcade (custom maps/mods) section. So of course rather than fixing the hole, Blizzard has cut off uploads.

So we can't test the balance changes.

Three weeks left until EWC, a __$700.000__ tournament, by the way.

Theoretically SC2 could become like Brood War, with balance changes happening purely through map design. Except we can't upload maps either.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by tmtvl »

Mistletoe wrote: post #417
dagaci wrote: post #403

Jenson has managed to kneel into every market boom in a reasonable amount of time with his GPUs and tech (hardware and software). No doubt he will be there when the next boom kicks off too. Microsoft fails consistently ... even when offered a lead on the plate... it fails, but these failures are eventually corrected for by the momentum of its massive business units. Apple is just very very late... but this failure ca…

What is the next boom? I honestly can’t think of one. Feels like we are just at the Age of the Plateau, which will be quite painful for markets and the world.

I'm gonna predict biotech. Implanted chips that let you interact with LLMs directly with your brain. Chips that allow you to pay for stuff by waving your hand at a sensor. Fully hands-free videoconferencing on the go. As with blockchain and current LLMs, not something I fancy spending any time with, but people will call it the next step towards some kind of tech utopia.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by hank808 »

827a wrote: post #242

Here's something I don't understand: Why is it that when I go look at DigitalOcean's GPU Droplet options, they don't offer any Blackwell chips? [1] I thought Blackwell was supposed to be the game changing hyperchip that carried AI into the next generation, but the best many providers still offer are Hopper H100s? Where are all the Blackwell chips? Its been oodles of months. Apparently AWS has them available in the P6…

Digits: July 22 it seems is the release date for the version with the Asus badge. https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-ascent-gx10-with-gb10-black...

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by p_j_w »

throwawayqqq11 wrote: post #455
blibble wrote: post #432

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> HN has a very strong moderation team with years and years of history letting awkward (e.g. criticism of YC, YC companies) things stand. the attempt to steer direction is well hidden, but it is very much there with https://hnrankings.info/ you can see the correction applied, in real time the hidden bits applied to dissenting accounts? far less visible

Oh wow, i always had that gut feeling, but now i know. Stop killing games went from consistent rank 2 to 102 in an instant. And it all happend outside my timezone so i didnt even know it existed here.

HN’s moderation system (posts with lots of flagged comments get derated) seems to really easy to game. Don’t like a story? Have bots post a bunch of inflammatory comments likely to get flagged and it will go away. There’s no way the people who run the site don’t know this, so I don’t know how to possibly make the case that they are actually okay with it.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by rollcat »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #400
bob1029 wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the reason you see things like Blizzard killing off Overwatch 1 is because the Lindy effect applies in gaming as well. Some things are so sticky and preferred that you have to commit atrocities to remove them from use. From a supply/demand perspective, if all of your customers are still getting high on the 5 (or 20) year old supply, launching a new title in the same space isn't going to work. There are not an…

From a business perspective, launching a game like Starcraft 2 at any time is a business catastrophe. There are obscure microtransactions in other Blizzard titles that have generated more revenue than Starcraft 2.

There's plenty of business opportunity in any genre; you can make a shit-ton of money by simply making the game good and building community goodwill.

The strategy is simple: 1. there's always plenty of people who are ready to spend way more money in a game than you and I would consider sane - just let them spend it but 2. make it easy to gift in-game items to other players. You don't even need to keep adding that much content - the "whales" are always happy to keep giving away to new players all the time.

Assuming you've built up that goodwill, this is all you need to keep the cash flowing. But that's non-exploitative, so you'll be missing that extra 1%. /shrug

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by const_cast »

p_j_w wrote: post #497
throwawayqqq11 wrote: post #455

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh wow, i always had that gut feeling, but now i know. Stop killing games went from consistent rank 2 to 102 in an instant. And it all happend outside my timezone so i didnt even know it existed here.

HN’s moderation system (posts with lots of flagged comments get derated) seems to really easy to game. Don’t like a story? Have bots post a bunch of inflammatory comments likely to get flagged and it will go away. There’s no way the people who run the site don’t know this, so I don’t know how to possibly make the case that they are actually okay with it.

I believe usually when this happens the admins like dang and tomhow manually unflag the post if they think it's relevant. Which... is not a perfect system, but it works. I've seen plenty of posts be flagged, dead, then get unflagged and revived. They'll go in and manually flag comments, too, to get the conversation back on track. So, I think site admins are aware that this is happening.

Also, it's somewhat easy to tell who is a bot. Really new accounts are colored green. I'm sure there's also long-running bots, and I'm not sure how you would find those.

Re: Nvidia won, we all lost

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Post by tricheco »

> The RTX 4090 was massive, a real heccin chonker

Every line of the article convinces me I'm reading bad rage bait, every comment in the thread confirms it's working.

The article provides a nice list of grievances from the "optimized youtube channel tech expert" sphere ("doink" face and arrow in the thumbnail or GTFO), and none of them really stick. Except for the part where nVidia is clearly leaving money on the table... From 5080 up no one can compete, with or without "fake frames", at no price, I'd love to take the dividends on the sale of the top 3 cards, but that money is going to scalpers.

If nvidia is winning, it's because competitors and regulators are letting them.

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