I think it's more of a time saver move by openAI - they can probably build something similar, cheaper – but, windsurf has established itself. Looking forward to see where this goes
OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
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Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
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I don't think that's the case here. Windsurf wasn't leading the agentic coding market. They were doing a decent job but others are bigger. Cursor has the brand recognition and Claude is getting a lot of recognition too. MS has github copilot which is still a good brand and Google has been catching up with Gemini. OpenAI has a new thing called codex but it isn't very good yet. I tried it and it's super flaky. Lot's of…
I wanna pick your brain a lil. Are you saying agentic AI has helped you replace devs that you would otherwise need for your startup? In your opinion, what should one do/learn to get a SDE/related gig now? What do you/other companies look for?
Not replace but it allows me to scale what we do for things we previously would have dropped because it would require growing the team, which we can't really afford. It's a case of getting a bit more out of developers in terms of quantity and scope (mostly this) of what they do. Not a full developer but enough for it to be meaningful. But it's not nothing either. Worth paying for. AI is a lot cheaper than a developer is so I don't need to replace my developers. I prefer people that are multi disciplinary and able to pick up new skills as they are needed. Agentic AIs are good for that because they give you enough to work with that you can get productive with whatever you need to wrap your head around in little to no time.
Companies can be a bit slow to update their hiring processes to their needs. But good developers should be ahead of the curve in any case. For this, just be proficient with the tools.
Be ready for the inevitable interview question "so, AI ... explain me how you are using it and what you are doing with it?". Much easier to answer that question if you have some meaningful time of routinely using this stuff behind you and can articulate what works and doesn't work for you.
And if they don't ask, that's actually a great question to ask back if you get the opportunity "I've been using agentic tooling, how are you guys using that a ? Also I would like a subscription to if I work for you". Stuff like that makes you stand out as ambitious and interested in the future. There are of course going to be places that maybe don't like that. But then ask yourself whether you'd want to work there. So, either way, you learn something.
Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
#493Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
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I feel jetbrains is squandering an opportunity here. Cursor is significantly easier to build then any IDE in the jetbrains ecosystem. The technology jetbrains is very hard to replicate. While the technology cursor uses should be trivial to replicate. If jetbrains can combine there IDE technology with cursor technology, that would be ideal. I think the problem is jetbrains tech is sort of already very biased in a cert…
> If jetbrains can combine there IDE technology with cursor technology, that would be ideal. Just give them some time, they're not stupid. I'd drop Cursor in an instant once JetBrains catches up, because IntelliJ IDEs are just a way more powerful.
Didnt Jetbrains launch their AI last year, is anyone using it?
Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
#495Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wanna pick your brain a lil. Are you saying agentic AI has helped you replace devs that you would otherwise need for your startup? In your opinion, what should one do/learn to get a SDE/related gig now? What do you/other companies look for?
Not replace but it allows me to scale what we do for things we previously would have dropped because it would require growing the team, which we can't really afford. It's a case of getting a bit more out of developers in terms of quantity and scope (mostly this) of what they do. Not a full developer but enough for it to be meaningful. But it's not nothing either. Worth paying for. AI is a lot cheaper than a developer…
Thank you for responding :)
So, would you consider it a bad idea to get into web dev, more specifically backend and infra?
Do you think using LLMs can accelerate learning software dev and programming skills?
Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
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This is beginnings of AI discrimination. If an answer is written by an LLM but equal or superior in quality to a human answer why question or disparage it? I don't know but it looks like you're probably a white guy. Your mannerisms and vibes make it look like you're white. Nothing wrong with this, just wanted to point it out. See what I'm saying. It's like the blade runner movies.
I find this comment odd but not at all discriminatory and will happily inform that yes, I am white British. I can see the point you’re going for but I do think it’s more complex than that. I don’t think LLMs are equivalent to another human race. Principally, LLMs have many pretty major differences to humans which you don’t really see at the inter-racial level. Secondly the reasoning for why asking someone their race…
The LLM provided an answer that has superior quality or equal quality to a human. Then instead of judging the statement rationally on this quality we decided to judge the question on whether or not it was AI.
This is the same irrationality we used to discriminate humans. There is no difference in logic. The reasoning you used here about how LLMs are not equivalent to human beings is the same reasoning Hitler used on Jewish people.
And here’s the thing. I agree with you. If you gassed and holocausted LLMs wouldn’t give two shits.
The main point here is that the logic and irrationality and evil present in racism is all at work here. We are literally being discriminatory, there’s no difference. Everyone missed the point about the quality of the statement itself and immediately based their judgement on whether or not it’s AI as if that was actually a rational thing to do. (It’s not).
Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
#497Incredible timeline to a $3B exit > Windsurf began in 2021 as Exafunction, founded by MIT graduates Varun Mohan and Douglas Chen. The company initially focused on GPU optimization before pivoting to AI-assisted coding tools, launching Codeium, which later evolved into Windsurf. > Series B (January 2024): $65 million at a $500 million valuation. > Series C (September 2024): $150 million, led by General Catalyst, at a…
It's a beautiful world where you'll only put a little over 220 MM in and get 3000MM out mere months later.
Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
#498Incredible timeline to a $3B exit > Windsurf began in 2021 as Exafunction, founded by MIT graduates Varun Mohan and Douglas Chen. The company initially focused on GPU optimization before pivoting to AI-assisted coding tools, launching Codeium, which later evolved into Windsurf. > Series B (January 2024): $65 million at a $500 million valuation. > Series C (September 2024): $150 million, led by General Catalyst, at a…
> Incredible timeline to a $3B exit
dot-com vibes. Maybe not quite the same as Pets.com but still...
Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
#499Value isn’t just the editor, it’s the workflow. Letting LLMs plan and act across multi-step flows is a hard problem, and Windsurf figured out a dev-focused version of that. Gains to be made in browser automation once you add structure, retries, and context. Feels like a bet on that pattern becoming default.
But yeah as others said, highly doubt that's $3B in hard cash, more likely a roll-up of shares etc.
Re: OpenAI reaches agreement to buy Windsurf for $3B
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Have you checked Augmentcode.com? On reddit/youtube people are praising it for how well it handle large codebase compared to Cursor and Windsurf
Your other comments indicate you work there, you might consider mentioning that.
Boo I hate when people do that.