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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by transcriptase »

triceratops wrote: post #473
mmastrac wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some of this stuff bugs me as well, but there's no good reason to defund an organization with some problems when you can fix it instead.

I read the poster's comment more closely and they sound paranoid tbh.

Paranoid about what? The things I’ve mentioned have been noticeable across the political spectrum for years.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CBC_Radio/comments/1ao0ie1/what_the...

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskACanadian/comments/18cz52m/why_d...

Etc.

Pointing out why many people take issue with the modern state of CBC, particularly all of their non-news content, doesn’t put one in opposition with the things they’re prioritizing.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by PleasureBot »

hwillis wrote: post #260
throwawaymaths wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the scotus (and, notably, conservative lower federal judges) has ruled pretty firmly against trump on the abrego garcia case.

On the grounds that he should have been sent to literally any other country, totally inapplicable to any of the other cases without specific preexisting orders against ES specifically. And notably they have outlined exactly nothing except that the administration had better say how they plan to get him back- the SCOTUS response to the executive saying "we have no plan" was just to say again that they wanted to know th…

The now famous photo of his hands with the "MS-13" tattoo, which is the evidence of his gang ties, was taken from CECOT. It would not surprise me in the slightest if he was forced to get that tattoo there. CECOT is widely known for torturing its prisoners, and their dictator is obviously doing anything he can to make Trump happy as he's being paid millions by Trump.

This is just a conspiracy theory but it highlights the need for due process. Without it it is very easy for governments to fabricate whatever narrative they want.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by whodidntante »

mjmsmith wrote: post #240
whodidntante wrote: post #104

I watch/listen to a variety of news sources - CNN, Fox News, NPR, NYTimes, WSj, as well as a number of smaller podcasts and substacks. There are no longer "unbiased" news sources, all sources have moved to either the left or right. I used to have respect for NPR, today it is, to me, the Fox News of the left, and no different than other sources. I do not have a problem with that, it is what it is. But it should not be…

If you're seriously equating NPR and the corporation that paid $800M to settle with Dominion Voting Systems, perhaps your own bias is more of a problem than theirs.

I am simply comparing them on a political spectrum of progressive, left, right, etc.

This is independent of lawsuits. There are a number of news outlets that have settled lawsuits - ABC, CNN, CBS (imminent), Newsmax, to name a few. Yes, Dominion was a large one. None of these change where these news outlets sit on the political spectrum.

The original discussion has to do with political bias and whether the government should be funding politically biased news organizations. NPR is a politically biased news organization. So is FOX. So are all of these organizations. Only NPR gets government funding.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by giardini »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

bhouston says ">Saving grace is that his is not widely popular...

Ummmm, he was elected President in a resounding defeat for Democrats. And if the election were held today the results would be the same or even worse for Democrats:

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-11-06/trump-defe...

"Trump trounced Harris in all the “blue wall” and Southern battleground states and maintained leads in Arizona and Nevada, prompting a torrent of anguish among Democrats. "

Today we continue to hear the "torrent of anguish among Democrats", who spout the same solutions they did preelection.

Sad!

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by mjmsmith »

whodidntante wrote: post #493
mjmsmith wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're seriously equating NPR and the corporation that paid $800M to settle with Dominion Voting Systems, perhaps your own bias is more of a problem than theirs.

I am simply comparing them on a political spectrum of progressive, left, right, etc. This is independent of lawsuits. There are a number of news outlets that have settled lawsuits - ABC, CNN, CBS (imminent), Newsmax, to name a few. Yes, Dominion was a large one. None of these change where these news outlets sit on the political spectrum. The original discussion has to do with political bias and whether the government…

Comparing the obvious shakedown of CBS to the Fox lawsuit is absurd.

There seems to be a lot of overlap in the Venn diagram between people who (1) claim to get their information from "a wide variety of news sources" (2) apparently believe that every source is equally trustworthy.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by mrguyorama »

wing-_-nuts wrote: post #287
throwawaymaths wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the scotus (and, notably, conservative lower federal judges) has ruled pretty firmly against trump on the abrego garcia case.

I'm reminded of andrew jackson's quote "[The supreme court] has made [their] decision, now let [them] enforce it..."

IMO this is the primary reason Jackson is the reactionary, hateful, right's favorite president, including Trump himself.

Go lookup the absolute horseshit video PragerU made about the battle of New Orleans.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by giardini »

sofixa wrote: post #192
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

> Right now I have some faith the courts in the US will stand up to this and get the US back on track but I worry that dam may not hold forever. He and his administration already ignored a Supreme court ruling, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Just like President Lincoln who pretty much did as he pleased:

https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&client=ubuntu&q=lin...

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by giardini »

nemomarx wrote: post #158
laborcontract wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because we've seen federal courts unafraid to repudiate unilateral executive force. Why don't you think that, all things considered?

Every time the courts say Trump did something wrong, he seems to mostly ignore this and keep going, so how much does it really matter? Without strong enforcement of those checks they will stop being taken seriously.

Joining other US Presidents (FDR, Lincoln, Andrew Jackson, etc.) who did the same thing.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by timbit42 »

sorcerer-mar wrote: post #246
mh8h wrote: post #187

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Theoretical question: what happens if he doesn’t do what the courts order, and the congress is too afraid to impeach him?

Courts can deputize other people to enforce their orders

Do you think that will happen? Any idea how long?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by sorcerer-mar »

timbit42 wrote: post #499
sorcerer-mar wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Courts can deputize other people to enforce their orders

Do you think that will happen? Any idea how long?

I think if this happens it would be well after shit has very visibly hit the fan.

I.e. when militias take up arms by themselves, perhaps a court would “authorize” their actions with something like this.

I don’t think any judge will voluntarily be the spark that ignites a civil war

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