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Any social app with one click to join communities (all of them) will fall under this. And how out of touch with teenagers are you that you think cartoons in the UI (whatever that means) are why they use it. What is a kids hobby? Gaming? You cannot call that a kids hobby.
Nah Facebook doesn't have swatting and pedo communities.
Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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The deceptive nature of Discord's "servers" has always made me wary. You're trusting one service with everything, it's Reddit all over again.
The nature of Discord "servers" is exactly why they won.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#493The nicest thing about Discord is that there are so many servers for every topic you can imagine; the rather sad thing is that when a server goes away, all that valuable content is gone. It should really stop companies from using it or make sure there is a bot offloading/indexing the content.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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Teamspeak and others were so well entrenched at the time. Wouldn't players of WoW, CS, etc. have brought those tools to FFXIV? What made that special?
Discord's killer feature for my money has always been that ever user in a call gets a slider bar (and mute button) to control the volume they hear ever other individual user in the call Zoom, in 2025, still makes you wait for the host to figure out which of the 30 other people has a dog incessantly barking or is causing the echo or has horrible feedback, and then try to talk them through fixing it before finally muti…
I mean, what do you want, it's only been around for 50 years.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#495Looking at https://rvlt.gg/discover/servers it seems that all reasonably active servers are either turkish[0] or anime related. [0]: Turkey banned Discord in 2024: https://www.reuters.com/technology/turkey-blocks-instant-mes...
So like Mastadon then. Every time I’ve looked into it, every server I’ve checked has been filled with furries and anime-avatars. I mean, I’m glad they’ve found a community where they feel at home, but it kinda makes it a hard pass for the rest of us ;)
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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I think the biggest selling point is clearly the community. Without the community revolt.chat is just another Mattermost or Matrix. Discord is popular for one reason and one reason only, all the young people are there. The secret is how did they get popular with young kids? Well they offered a free service obviously, just like Google, just like Facebook. I've been trying to explain this to a friend recently. You're o…
Yeah, it is the chat program treadmill. Spend investor money to host a completely commoditized program. Of course it is better than the version that costs money by virtue of being free. Eventually run out of investor money and do something unpopular to raise revenue, leaving the opportunity for the next iteration to come in for free and take your spot. The only thing I don’t really understand is why investors keep fa…
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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I'll bite. What's the moderator LARP-ing thing? I've tried looking it up but among irrelevant results (general LARP info) I just found this comment again as the third result...
Discord is shifting focus back to gaming [1]. What was it before? A moderation simulator, of course. That's what I mean by LARP. You wouldn't stick a kid in the pilot seat of a real Boeing 747, would you? [1] https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/29/24167147/discord-gaming-f... (2024) EDIT- Second hint: To summon Galrog the Destroyer, say "Live. Action. Role. Playing." and clap your hands 5 times. But fear not what is ahea…
I'm frankly wondering whether I should ask if you're okay. Idk if you have a legitimate dispute with Discord or some people on there (I dislike Discord as much as the next self hosting open source non walled garden fan, but this is next level), or if it's something else. Wild guess / legitimately concerned: do you have a heater that can leak carbon monoxide? Or maybe I am just extremely bad at understanding what I've just read
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
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That's a political statement. The position is that one should have the right and ability to communicate with other people in a secure fashion. If you deny this right, and build structures to monitor all communication, when "bad" people take over the government, you end up in a dystopia. Then building any sort of anti-government political movement become very difficult because they can hear whatever you say. So I am g…
Sorry but you were arguing that Discord should snoop even more into what we're doing for ethical reasons, and now you're saying privacy is a virtue. Do you have a reason to think Discord doesn't already do these things and just doesn't get it right every time? Phone and email aren't more private than Discord either. Arguably less. Difficult to get a phone these days without buying it on camera. And a phone company wi…
Whatsapp/Signal are as close to (1) as possible by design, can't actually do (2) at all. Phone/Mail are somewhere in the middle, but quite close to (1). In most countries in the world, there is no mass recording of phone calls or mail, despite it trivially easy to do so. Moreover, due to long long historical legal precedent, I don't think phone/mail companies have any freedom to do things differently. They are pretty much constrained to do exactly what the government tells them to do.
Discord on the other hand, does not respect (1) at all. In fact, it very intentionally records and reads everything for profit. And it hands over any info requested by law enforcement. So, ethically, either they rewrite Discord to respect (1) or they should do (2). I don't think they are. As others have noted in this thread, it is trivial to find servers that are clearly criminal.
One might argue that it is impossible to do so because there are so many servers. My second political position is that if your public platform is so large that you can't effectively moderate it, that is not an excuse. You are culpable. Simply stop your platform from growing past the point where you can't effectively stop bad things happening. You don't have the right to profit while enabling bad things.
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#499A British company making a chat app. What’s the privacy policy? 5 eyes first then you?
Not saying this is better, but is definitely not worse. At least in Europe there is the GDPR, whereas in the US there is a president officially supporting corruption [1].
If you care about privacy, you have to go for open source end-to-end encryption. Probably Signal. At least this you can self-host.
[1]: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-fcpa-anti-bribery-law-exe...
Re: Revolt: Open-Source Alternative to Discord
#500Can we stop building communities in non-indexable locations? The death of forums and hence “google-ability” for problems and solutions is so depressing. The UX is worse in every way
Negative. Communities need not be findable by bots on the public web, in fact many should not be. Nobody has a right to read, index, analyze, or resell my conversations with friends. Anyone who wants to has plenty of options for posting in public forums, and the movement away from that behavior indicates a growing awareness of its problems.